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Topic: Fresh water tank fills up when connected to water?
Posted By: Tonii87
Subject: Fresh water tank fills up when connected to water?
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2021 at 6:22pm
Good evening,

So I took my R Pod 183g out for the first time. I didn’t realize that when I connected the water hose the fresh water tank got full of water until I got home 300 miles later. Lesson learned there but is there a way to by pass the fresh water tank or that’s just the way it’s supposed to work?




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Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2021 at 7:49pm
No, it's not intended to do that, there is a check valve in the water pump that is supposed to prevent that. It's pretty common for that to leak and backfill the fresh water tank when on city water, especially if you don't use the pump much. Try disconnecting city water and use your pump and FWT for a bit, see if that clears it. You might need to cycle back and forth between city water and the pump/tank a few times.

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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2021 at 8:02pm
+1 on Offgrid's advice.

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StephenH
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Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: Tonii87
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2021 at 8:06pm
I didn’t use the pump at all while connected to the city water. Will check that out. Thank you


Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2021 at 8:22pm
Will have to try hooking up my hose to the city water connection and see if that happens to my 177.  Here I have owned it for almost 11 years and have never used that connection, have always used well water and the FW tank.


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'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2021 at 9:46pm
You normally don't use the pump while connected to city water. You do need water in the tank to use the pump. Since it got filled up, that is a good time to exercise that pump and hopefully, clear whatever piece of debris is blocking the check valve from closing.

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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 10 Oct 2021 at 7:48am
It seems that the folks who have this issue are folks who are normally connected to city water and don't use the pump and 12v water system. Like humans the pump needs some excercise from time to time to clear the pipes.

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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 10 Oct 2021 at 3:33pm
First time since owning our 177 (that was March 2011) that I hooked up the water hose to the city water connection.  Waited a while to see if any would go into the FW tank . . . . none did so that is check valve is in proper working order.  If I am still alive in another 11 years maybe I will try that city water connection for the 2nd time.Smile


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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."


Posted By: TeamRPod
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2021 at 8:15am
My 10 year old Pods fresh water tank bows out and will not fully drain. I can just throw bleach in there but am thinking about snaking a tube in there and siphon the remaining water out - unless someone can share a better idea. Taking her out for her final voyage of the year this weekend. My windshield was crusted over with ice this morning, and the park I am going to has HIGH water pressure. I hope my camper is not a multi sprinkler head after I connect...


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2021 at 9:14am
Park so that the drain on the tank is lower. That may mean raising the opposite side of the pod on a ramp or blocks and adjusting the front/rear angle so that more water drains out. Other than that, you could put a long wide board under the low part and use a jack to push the bowed part of the tank up so more can drain also. Once you get below the fitting levels, any residual water will not cause damage when it freezes.

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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: TeamRPod
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2021 at 9:17am
Originally posted by StephenH

Park so that the drain on the tank is lower. That may mean raising the opposite side of the pod on a ramp or blocks and adjusting the front/rear angle so that more water drains out. Other than that, you could put a long wide board under the low part and use a jack to push the bowed part of the tank up so more can drain also. Once you get below the fitting levels, any residual water will not cause damage when it freezes.
 

Excellent!  Thank you. I am glad I asked, it had been grinding on me knowing I am going to have a black mold breeding ground - leaving the cap open just doesn't cut it.

I am not worried about freezing in my near empty fresh water. I am more worried about my water pipes that hadn't been winterized proper with last/next nights freeze.


Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2021 at 11:08am
We have hills severe enough so that I can simply park and allow all the water to drain out of the FW tank.

So are you going to drain HW tank and low point drains and go the antifreeze route or go with compressed air to blow out your lines?  How cold did it get where you live?


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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."


Posted By: TeamRPod
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2021 at 12:35pm
Originally posted by jato

We have hills severe enough so that I can simply park and allow all the water to drain out of the FW tank.

So are you going to drain HW tank and low point drains and go the antifreeze route or go with compressed air to blow out your lines?  How cold did it get where you live?


We have cold winters. I have a proper air compressor so I went that route my first year - no regrets. Filling everything with antifreeze seems inefficient and wasteful and not as green as I would like. Plus, in the spring you have drain all that out,  flush it all, and then dispose. I just drive away. I had a friend burn out their heater coil by forgetting to change the bypass after flushing out the antifreeze.

I did keep my air pressure low (35psi IIRC) which prolonged clearing of the lines and will likely crank PSI up this year. With faucets etc open using higher pressure seems very low risk.  I recommend using simple clear cheap air pressure to all.


Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2021 at 3:51pm
Agree 100%  I borrow a commercial compressor where I used to work (I bring it there) hook up the gun to the pigtail, open the 3-way valve, open a faucet and turn on the air at 85 psi.  Always keep one line open while going through all the lines and toilet as well.  Takes less than 2 minutes to go through everything twice.  One year I opened the low point drains after the blow out - got about 1 - 2 drops out of each one.  Since then have never opened the low point drains.  Northern Michigan - cold winters.

I hear you on the antifreeze, I gallon lasts me 8 years.  I use a total of 16 oz each winter, 3 oz. for each drain/trap and 1oz for the toilet lid to keep the seal moist.  No leaks, no worries, no problems after 9 seasons.  The first year did the traditional 2 gallons and run through all the lines, never again as it took numerous concoctions to rid the lines of the antifreeze taste (we use the FW tank for drinking otherwise it wouldn't have been an issue).


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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."


Posted By: Kahonu37
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2022 at 5:54am
Originally posted by offgrid

No, it's not intended to do that, there is a check valve in the water pump that is supposed to prevent that. It's pretty common for that to leak and backfill the fresh water tank when on city water, especially if you don't use the pump much. Try disconnecting city water and use your pump and FWT for a bit, see if that clears it. You might need to cycle back and forth between city water and the pump/tank a few times.

Another cure is to put a check valve between the pump and the tank. Use pez clamps, to hook it in, won’t leak or bow off.

This solved the problem for me, haven’t had an issue since.

M


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