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Topic: RPod 195 Review - SCARY Reading
Posted By: caroldwyer
Subject: RPod 195 Review - SCARY Reading
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2021 at 2:39pm

On 09-18-20 we bought a new R-Pod 195 from Wilder RV in Port Angeles, WA for $26,190.  We are going to keep it but we have a lot of complaints about the cheap construction, which is so tragic because it could have easily been done so nice and sturdy. Here are our complaints from our first outing:

 1. Nice pantry with astonishingly cheap plastic clips holding up the shelves. In the first week, the clips snapped off and the groceries came crashing down. We could not even close the pantry door. Groceries rolled everywhere as we drove. NO,  we were not overloading the shelves, just normal groceries. Forest River, please use unbreakable, adjustable METAL clips.

 

2. The front screen door attaches to the exit door by a cheap plastic clip that does not hold. The two doors separate constantly when they shouldn’t, causing struggles on enter/exit. Soon something will break. Yes, we did adjust it. Your clip design is too shallow and should be metal.

 

3.Someone is knocking at our door and we have no way to see who it is! Because the door is frosted glass. Are they friend or hatchet murderer? Forest River, you must add a peak hole or a small panel of clear glass. Strangers come and go all the time in RV parks.

 

4. All the window unlocking clips are also cheap plastic and won’t last.

 

5. Stove design . . .there is a DEEP CRACK around all four edges of the stovetop. Filth falls in this crack while your are cooking and wiping up. The crack is so deep and narrow that you can NEVER get the dirt out of there. This is a filthy and dangerous design. You cannot even lift this burner plate up to clean up under it. Truly the worst possible design for food. There will be mold under there in no time. This is our strongest complaint about the R195.

 

6. The bathroom sink faucet spout does not reach the middle of the sink. It is too close to the back wall. Whenever you use this sink, water runs down the wall behind the faucets.

 

7. Bathroom sink cold water knob is backwards: LEFTY loosey. RIGHTY tighty, right? We should turn our faucets ON by turning left. But no, on this sink, the hot turns left but the cold turns RIGHT. They are opposite! This is impossible to get used to. The shower is also backwards the same way, so be prepared to burn yourself in the shower.

 

8. Did I mention the shower curtain rings? They are as teensy as angel hair pasta, and no bigger around than a penny. When you pull the curtain shut gently, the rings tear open and fall. I have a photo of this to show you.

 

9. The kitchen faucet design looks nice but pinches your finger. Right where you grab the faucet to turn it off, there is a crack that closes and pinches the heck out of your finger skin, no matter how careful you try to be.

 

10. The kitchen faucet tip should have been threaded so you can add a sprayer.

 

11. The mattress on the bed was so bad it would make a Bedouin cry. We immediately replaced it. Why not give people a decent mattress and make them like you? Or just no mattress at all, because you just wasted your money on this. 

 

12. The baseboard trim between floor and side walls fell off in the first week. Jeez.

 

Now for the slide-out and sofa area:

 

13. When the slide moves, the bottom of the slide drags on the top of the fender outside. Not good.

 

14. The two cube-shaped floor cushions make extra sleeping at night, but destroy all your floor walking space during the day. If you try to sit on these cubes, you will go flying backwards and nearly kill yourself. Goodbye cubes.

 

15. The back cushion on the sofa sits low and feels like a bad back support. Your body is pushed forward but your head bumps backward onto the wall. Thus, there really is NO comfortable way to sit down in this RV while watching TV. You are forced to lie on the bed. The entire sofa area on the RP195 should be replaced with the dual recliner shown in RPod202. 

 

16. The board underneath the sofa cushions is extremely thin wallboard, not even thin plywood. My husband and I made the mistake of both sitting down on it at the same time and we heard a loud crack. We are not overweight. This board is also the floor of the slide with a wheel below it so the thinness worries me for long term. You all know that Forest River is trying to keep the weight down but we still need to be safe.

 

17. Thank you for reading this. Any feedback is appreciated. The staff at Wilder RV took good care of us but they could only fix things that were broken. They could not address the cheap construction. I hope we will hear from Forest River and that they will take this to heart.

Steve and Carol Dwyer  mailto:steve1dwyer@gmail.com -

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 




Replies:
Posted By: TheBum
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2021 at 4:39pm
Yeah, those shelf supports are a joke. I broke several as well on my first trip; fortunately, none were actually supporting shelves. I plan to replace them with these when I get the time:
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http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B001DT5B10/ - https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B001DT5B10/
http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0725T2MPN/ - https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0725T2MPN/

The rails will need to be cut down in length to fit.

I have a 2021 196 and haven't noticed any issues with the slide under the jack-knife sofa.


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Alan
2022 R-Pod 196 "RaptoRPod"
2022 Ram 1500 Lone Star 4x4
Three cats


Posted By: RoverPod
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2021 at 5:43pm
It's easy to unscrew the stovetop to clean underneath if needed.


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2017 F150 XLT SuperCab
2020 rPod 180


Posted By: caroldwyer
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2021 at 6:41pm
Bum, thank you for the link! The old reliable metal clips - available everywhere - are the same ones we used.
 



Posted By: caroldwyer
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2021 at 6:51pm
Sorry RoverPod, but i'm going to say that you don't understand women. We have to clean the stove every time we use it. Here is the procedure you call "easy to unscrew":
1. Get out screwdriver and unscrew two phillips heads screws.
 Do not lose the washers that fall out when you lift the screw.
2. Pull hard to remove the two heat control knobs.
3. Lift off the two iron burner grates and set aside.
4. Remove the huge flat stovetop plate and set aside.
5. Look down in the deep hole and start cleaning. 
6. Reverse all steps to put rangetop back together.
7. Pour yourself a stiff drink.

Sorry RoverPod, this is a functional disaster and women will not do it every day.
I did this myself five minutes ago and was horrified to find a deep layer of grease down in there next to the gas supply. This design is a TRUE FIRE HAZARD!!!  This 2-burner gas range is a Suburban brand, if you want to google it.




Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2021 at 8:35pm
If you don't want to clean between the stove and the the counter top, why don't you fill the gap with some sort of caulk?  Then you'll only need to clean it once in a while, which will, of course, necessitate the removal of the caulk, so don't use something like silicone that is hard to remove.  

As for your other comments about the trailer, remember R-Pods, and many other low end trailers, like our FR Sonoma, are built to be not only light, but relatively cheaply.  If you want something that doesn't have the flaws you listed, you may want to consider a higher end, more costly, trailer.  They make the low end trailers as cheaply as they can and they are maintenance intensive.  In a word, you get what you pay for.


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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: Dirt Sifter
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2021 at 9:15pm
Wow, you either didn't look over your unit very closely before you bought it, or didn't compare these with other RV's in this price range. We've been inconvenienced by some of these things you mentioned, but can live with them for the price. Would I like to have everything perfect; you bet. Can I live with what I bought; you bet. Do I like the cheap mattress - nope, but we've replaced the mattress in every trailer we've owned. Now we plan on it. At 6'4" and 250 lbs, I've not broken the slide out base yet. But will replace the cushions on it at some point. Some stuff you live with, other stuff you fix. As lostagain said, you get what you pay for.


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Greg n Deb 2020 195 HRE
'07 Tundra 5.7L., '17 Tacoma 3.5L. Both with tow packages
1 Puggle, 1 Chihuahua support staff


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2021 at 1:36am
+1 to lostagain and Dirt Sifter. Most of what you're describing is normal stuff on this level of RV.

You haven't mentioned any serious issues (except possibly your slide
issue) with the trailer structure systems or appliances, in this you are lucky. None of this stuff gets better with age BTW, RVs just require a lot of maintenance, and even if your very diligent they still don't age well (at least not until they reach an age where they become collectible).

You might want to reconsider if RV ownership is right for you. Are you going to be getting the enjoyment from it that compensates for the work and cost involed? If not, now is a uniquely good time to sell a used RV. I asked myself that question this Spring and decided that for the next couple of years I wouldn't.

Good luck!





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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: caroldwyer
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2021 at 12:46pm
thank you LostAgain for your wise and true words


Posted By: caroldwyer
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2021 at 12:47pm
calk is a GREAT idea. thank you


Posted By: caroldwyer
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2021 at 12:51pm
you're right, DirtSifter. we stand enlightened. I guess coming from a 42' Tiffin Allegro bus, we had wrong ideas. After 12 years in the Tiffin, we parked it and became snowbirds with an RPod for the annual trek from north to south.  Thank you.


Posted By: caroldwyer
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2021 at 12:59pm
Thank you OFFGRID. You are so right about levels of quality, which we were naive about. As I explained to DIRTSIFTER. . .. we were 13 years in a sturdy Tiffin Allegro Bus, then the RPod for snowbird duty. Take care.  


Posted By: RoverPod
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2021 at 5:42pm
Originally posted by caroldwyer

Sorry RoverPod, but i'm going to say that you don't understand women. We have to clean the stove every time we use it. Here is the procedure you call "easy to unscrew":
1. Get out screwdriver and unscrew two phillips heads screws.
 Do not lose the washers that fall out when you lift the screw.
2. Pull hard to remove the two heat control knobs.
3. Lift off the two iron burner grates and set aside.
4. Remove the huge flat stovetop plate and set aside.
5. Look down in the deep hole and start cleaning. 
6. Reverse all steps to put rangetop back together.
7. Pour yourself a stiff drink.

Sorry RoverPod, this is a functional disaster and women will not do it every day.
I did this myself five minutes ago and was horrified to find a deep layer of grease down in there next to the gas supply. This design is a TRUE FIRE HAZARD!!!  This 2-burner gas range is a Suburban brand, if you want to google it.


I have the same stove, so I don't need to Google it. I disagree that it is a fire hazard when properly used and cleaned. It's definitely not a FIRE HAZARD.

FYI, I am a woman so... you can retract all of that rhetoric.

Good luck. I'm done with this one.


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2017 F150 XLT SuperCab
2020 rPod 180


Posted By: RFrog
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2021 at 8:41pm
Our 2019 180 is the first trailer/RV we've ever owned.  My parents have this enormous Dynamax and that is my husband's bar for quality, so it was a little tough to convince him to get a dinky/inexpensive trailer. As others have said, you get what you pay for.  I have also said that I will not buy anything that was assembled in 2020 and/or 2021.  The quality in workmanship in almost everything has suffered for many reasons during this timeframe.  I may not even consider buying anything assembled in 2022 - unless the supply chain/workforce improves.  The demand for travel trailers in particular has skyrocketed, so all of the companies are cranking those puppies out as fast as they can, and occasionally craftsmanship will suffer as a result.  I can empathize with most of what you say - heck - on my rig, all of the faucets turn a different direction.  One is hot = left, cold = right.  One is hot = left, cold = left - you get the picture.  Every time I need to turn off a faucet, the water blasts until I roll my eyes and remember that it's different than at home, or even different than the kitchen faucet or shower, or whatever.  If everything is a pet peeve, you may not find the enjoyment you sought in purchasing a little respite/oasis.  Almost anyone who ever buys an RV replaces the mattress because RV mattresses are terrible.  Every time I take mine out, "something" happens - some is minor, some is a little more labor intensive.  Sometimes it's my fault, sometimes it's just something wearing out or breaking.  I find that I enjoy puttering and coming up with creative alternatives to whatever bothers me.  I review the forum, virtually sit at the feet of the wonderful helpers here, and I get ideas.  The annoying stuff can be changed out slowly.  Remember - this is supposed to be fun, and despite the annoyances/inconveniences, it still is.  Even though my mental list is long, I spend most of my time enjoying the journey and picking one thing (or two) that I want to rectify/modify on each outing.  Sometimes it's a convenience improvement/mod/organization, sometimes it's buying a ladder and a can of Flex Seal because when it rained I discovered a leak. I'm still not deterred, and we still say every time we go out - IT'S WAY BETTER THAN A TENT.  Heart  I hope you can find enjoyment in your travels.

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~dani~ 2019 RP180 purchased 5/15/21; towed by 2014 Willys Jeep Wrangler Unlimited


Posted By: caroldwyer
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2021 at 12:32pm
RFrog, you are an angel. I so appreciate your wise and wonderful answer, focusing on the big picture and giving us a new attitude. Everything you say is so true. Thanks a million for taking the time.
carol and steve dwyer


Posted By: RFrog
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2021 at 3:56pm
Heart


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~dani~ 2019 RP180 purchased 5/15/21; towed by 2014 Willys Jeep Wrangler Unlimited



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