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Topic: Can Pod be set up for use in winter
Posted By: Pod-a-terre
Subject: Can Pod be set up for use in winter
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2013 at 11:34am
Was wondering if there are any mods etc that could be done so one could use the Pod during the winter months?
JohnOuch


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John Kris "Lady Sarah" our Golden
Aiken SC



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Posted By: Goose
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2013 at 12:03pm
Make sure that the POD is winterized and just dry camp all winter. The heater works great or if you have electric near by use a small electric heater.
   Happy Camping, Goose

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Mother Goose's Caboose..2011 RP171..07 Grand Cherokee


Posted By: Pod-a-terre
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2013 at 12:06pm
Understand doing that . I guess I should have been clearer. Is there anything that one can do ( mods  etc)to a Pod to fully utilize all the systems camping in the colder winter months?
John


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John Kris "Lady Sarah" our Golden
Aiken SC


Posted By: Goose
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2013 at 12:15pm
I thought that might be what you wanted to know, you would have to enclose the tanks and/or use tank heaters to make that work. I looked at enclosing the bottom of the POD last year like a lot of larger trailers have done but decided against it, wanted to do it more for the aerodynamic reasons than keeping the tanks warm. Goose

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Posted By: furpod
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2013 at 3:16pm
Yes it could be done.. But only if you were going to use it full time would it even be near worth it to bother. The thing is, even with tank heaters and insulation, hose heaters etc.. immediately when you get back from camping, or even before a long pull from a CG, you would need to re-winterize, so everything doesn't freeze while unhooked.

Dry camping is the answer. Stay at parks that have year 'round bath houses.


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Posted By: techntrek
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2013 at 4:14pm

I third dry camping in winter.  Several of us do a winter campout every January and we go to a campground with a heated bathroom.  I keep a dishpan in the sink and jugs of water in the pod, throwing any water I collect in the bushes.  I keep a gallon of RV antifreeze in the bathroom to flush if needed in the middle of the night but otherwise use the heated bathhouse most of the time.

The pods sit so low even with the risers that you would risk ripping off any enclosure you make for the tanks.  Any enclosure would need to be heated 24/7 until you winterized, as noted above.  You could run a generator while on the road but that adds a new set of problems - where to mount, an enclosure for it that would still vent well but protect from rain while on the road, etc.



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Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1723 - Pod instruction manual


Posted By: Pod-a-terre
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2013 at 5:16pm
Ok I get the message DRY CAMP. Now to convince the DW that it is doable and not that bad. She loves her morning shower..so camps with heated bathrooms.
Thanks again for all the comments/advice. We plan, hopefully to get a Pod in early 2014...had a 182G a few years back ( long story why we got out of RVing but now that we have downsized our home and taken all the maintenance etc out of the equation) . RVing is back on the never ending "bucket list"  We are looking at the 178 and possibly the new 179.
Thanks again for all the comments.
John


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John Kris "Lady Sarah" our Golden
Aiken SC


Posted By: Tars Tarkas
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2013 at 9:02pm
Nothing really to add, but we take the pod out about as much in winter as anytime.  One of the best things, to my mind, about the pod is the shower and I miss that a lot in winter.  We go to the Smokies a lot and stay in the NP campgrounds.  No shower, the bathrooms aren't heated, no hookups at all.  But we used to tent camp, and the pod is almost infinitely better in terms of winter comfort. 

We're headed soon to a SC beach state park with hot showers and water and electricity hookups.  Plus it's not cold enough there, usually, to worry about freezing.  So there's that too.  If you don't want to dry camp you can always head south.  Hey -- I just noticed you're in SC.  Even in TN, other than in the mountains, there is a lot of time in the winter when you can get by with water in the system.  You need to be prepared to winterize quickly.  I carry a couple of gallons of antifreeze for the toilet, as Doug suggested, and in case it gets too cold while we're out or we need it for the trip back.

TT


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2010 176
FJ Cruiser


Posted By: Lefty
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2013 at 9:49am
Tars,
I'm in NC. Do you mind if I ask which SC beach campground you're referring to?

Thanks


Posted By: Tars Tarkas
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2013 at 9:54am
Hunting Island State Park. 

TT


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2010 176
FJ Cruiser


Posted By: GA_RPOD_178
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2013 at 1:53pm
Originally posted by Pod-a-terre

Ok I get the message DRY CAMP. Now to convince the DW that it is doable and not that bad. She loves her morning shower..so camps with heated bathrooms.
Thanks again for all the comments/advice. We plan, hopefully to get a Pod in early 2014...had a 182G a few years back ( long story why we got out of RVing but now that we have downsized our home and taken all the maintenance etc out of the equation) . RVing is back on the never ending "bucket list"  We are looking at the 178 and possibly the new 179.
Thanks again for all the comments.
John

We were at Stone Mountain the first week of December.  It has nice heated restrooms and showers. We carried a few jugs of water for coffee and used a small electric heater in lieu of the gas heater (much quieter).  We winterized in November due to an early cold snap.

No problems. 


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Posted By: danthoman
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2013 at 2:57pm
I was thinking a skirt around the pod might work. It would keep the wind down and with a small heater underneath the pod the tanks should be fine into the low 20's. Of course you'd have to winterize before heading home. We've camped several nights with the temperature in the upper 20's and have not had a problem. However, the temperatures did get into the low 40's during the day.

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Linda and Dan
Calley the golden retriever
R-pod 177 and a Tundra 8 cyl


Posted By: kymooses
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2013 at 4:59pm
Originally posted by Tars Tarkas

Hunting Island State Park. 

TT

Love that place!!!


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Posted By: XPod
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2014 at 8:05am

You don't have to "only" dry camp. It's easier and cheaper but I used mine to go snowboarding and had water so...it'll do winters BUT it costs some money (tank heaters).

The R-Pod needs some fairly extensive mods to do winters BUT once you do them its a really good winter camper because of the extruded styrofoam walls.That is the first point.

The R-Pod, for all its faults, has (IMHO) very good construction for winters...here is why. Your normal RV in this price range has wood walls with regular "fiberglass" insulation which will fall down/degrade an collect in the bottom of the walls. The R-Pods walls are an empty frame which they extrude styrofoam into giving you very good and uniform insulation. So..there is that :-)

Mods that are needed/I did to mine...plus a couple of extras.

0. Tank heaters, elbow heaters, pipe heaters. Thing is you HAVE to be careful because the RPOD power supply can only source so much juice. So do the power calculations. I had a complete package installed and I only ran the freshwater and the fresh water hose heater (keep reading). We flushed the toilet with RV antifreeze and the same in the Grey tank....used a lot of RV antifreeze...but it's pretty cheap and its not that big of a deal to do.

1. Replace the garden hose...yes garden hose! The freshwater tank has a GARDEN HOSE coming out of the top that feeds the pump. Yep..it'll freeze and split like crazy. Replace it with a pex hose and AND wrap it in the smallest pad heater you can find (I used Ultraheat). Works great.

2. Buy a case of expandable insulation spray foam and FILL THE HOLES. First time I used the RPod in the winter, the heater ran almost continuously and you could feel freezing air pour in. Not so bad in the summer, not good in the winter. Here is a list of the holes I filled.
 - Behind the fridge, there are open seams, in the winter, cold air pours
            in around the fridge and I mean POURS. Remove the outside cover, fill the gaps.
        - Under the sink - When they build these things, they cut about a 2 inch hole to
     install a 1" piece of PVC. Under the sink, where the water hose comes into the
            pump...hole...fill it.
        - Under the sink, on the wall, you'll see the back of the outside electric and cable
            outlet. It's pretty much a thin piece of plastic between the inside and outside.
        - Under the seat (where the water heater is) there are some cut outs for the water
            fill etc... spray foam em'
        - Under the shower...I saved the worst for last. There are at least 4 pvc pipes under
            the shower. In my pod each of the holes were about 1.5 times the size of the
     PVC an cold air POURS through them. These were so big, I used some screen along
            with the spray foam. How to get to them? I took the small vent off the front, but
            could only get to a couple of them. So I cut a hole in the wall, very near the
            floor, under the bottom bunk. Spent a couple of hours crawling and worming
            around, and filled all of them.

****Ok thats the basics...here are a couple of extras that I did to make it REALLY toasty.
 1. Bought a sheet of 1" pink styrofoam insulation and cut pieces to place
             on the floor. Then bought the Rpod rug from forest river to cover them.
             REALLY warms the floor up and they don't "squish" when you walk on it.
        2. Bought sheet of 2" pink styrofoam and lined the hidden walls
             (even under the bunk). So I lined the walls inside the cabinents, both floor
             and ceiling, under the bunk, under the seats in the storage are and where
             the water heater is, and under the bench seat where I cut fitted pieces
             and installed them through the storage area below the seat.

Wheww....lots of work....but the result. 2 years ago, camped over winter holiday break,
         at 10,000 feet in the Rockies. Cold blowing wind...warm as toast.
         camped 11 days and used 3/4 tank of LP!

It takes some work...but the RPOD makes a very good winter camper.



Posted By: techntrek
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2014 at 11:12am

Nice write-up.  One note, the pod has fiberglass in the curved walls.

You must be a programmer by day?



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Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1723 - Pod instruction manual


Posted By: XPod
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2014 at 2:06pm
Ha..yes I do write software! :-)  With some experience in robotics and electromechanical controls.

I thought the RPod walls were an aluminum frame, placed into a press and filled with styrofoam on the inside, with fiberglass on the outside. But I haven't cut into the outside walls so I don't know for sure. But I thought the dealer said styrofoam on the inside.... But hey, Lear something new every day Smile


Posted By: techntrek
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2014 at 6:32pm

There is foam in all the straight walls including the ceiling, with aluminum framing.  The curved walls are wood frame with fiberglass batts.

Only a programmer would start a list with a zero, due to so many functions and objects that start at zero! Wink



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Posted By: Jcync000
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2021 at 3:45pm
thanks for the great writeup on setting up the Rpod 171 for winter.   My goal is to go to the ski resorts here in the east coast and stay in some parking lots nearby.   They won't have any services but goal is to stay only for 2-3 nights and essentially to serve as a sleeping quarter and use the resort's restaurants and facilities as much as possible.  For that, sounds like winterizing the Rpod and using RV antifreeze as a flushing liquid in the bathrooms would be the way to go.  And bBoil water for a towel bath I guess, old school!  I would like to at least fix all of the air gaps that you described, I have noticed that specially under the bed, it is totally wide open, it would be nasty for the furnace to heat up the trailer without these modifications.   Why do they cut such enormous holes for the pipes???


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2021 at 12:18am
Well no reason to boil the water unless you really want to scald yourself. Heating the water to 105-110 degrees is fine....

One thing folks often misunderstand about RV antifreeze is tthat the standard -50F stuff will freeze at around 12F but still provide burst protection down to -50F. So if it's pretty cold at the ski places where you plan to camp your black tank might freeze even though your using RV antifreeze.

As for tubing entry holes, mine were seal up with foam, if yours have gaps you can just get a spray can of urethane foam and fill them yourself.

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1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: mjlrpod
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2021 at 10:20am
Originally posted by Jcync000

   Why do they cut such enormous holes for the pipes???

Sounds like you have a newer pod. They cut huge holes now to run pipes. I assume it makes the assembly 1 minute faster, so more profits. Because they use that corrugated cover they now use to seal the under belly, they don't need to be careful. or skilled assemblers. 


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2020 R-pod 195
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Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2021 at 11:58am
Might it perhaps be that with the bottom cover now they are deliberately making the holes big so some air exchanges under there to keep the plumbing warmer in cooler (not winter) conditions?

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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: Colt
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2021 at 6:43pm
Originally posted by Pod-a-terre

Was wondering if there are any mods etc that could be done so one could use the Pod during the winter months?

JohnOuch




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