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Topic: 1 # propane bottles
Posted By: john in idaho
Subject: 1 # propane bottles
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2014 at 11:11am
I have accumulated a lot of those supposed throw away propane bottles.  We have an outdoor stove and a Little Buddy heater.  Are there any tricks to refilling them, or should one just toss them?



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Posted By: techntrek
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2014 at 11:20am
Toss them.  The valves on them are so cheap, usually after just the first hookup they won't seal right again.  I used to have an adapter that allows you to refill from a 20 pound tank and every one I tried I had to keep hooked up to an appliance to keep it from leaking.

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Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1723 - Pod instruction manual


Posted By: Podster
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2014 at 1:18pm
Agreed, single use propane bottles are not designed to "refillable tank specifications" and therefore, pose a safety hazard...the valves are not designed for multiple uses and the steel used is not the same grade as, say...a 20lb tank. 

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Cliff & Raelynn
Ranger 4.0/178
(1/2 ton 5,800lb tow capacity)


Posted By: john in idaho
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2014 at 1:27pm
that is what I thought.  I saw at the RV dealers the other day, the cutest miniature propane tank, refillable just like the big 20 lb. It looked like it would hold a gallon, and with a hose with adapter, it looked like it would be even better than the little  one lb. ones.


Posted By: Podster
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2014 at 2:01pm
Yes, I have not seen, but have read that there are small tanks designed and rated for refilling.

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Cliff & Raelynn
Ranger 4.0/178
(1/2 ton 5,800lb tow capacity)


Posted By: Leo B
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2014 at 2:39pm
We drop the tanks off at recycling.

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Leo & Melissa Bachand
2017 Ford F150
2021 Vista Cruiser 19 csk
Previously owned
2015 Rpod 179
2010 Rpod 171


Posted By: marwayne
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2014 at 2:45pm
I use a 5 pound bottle.

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If you want something done right, do it yourself.
2011 RP172, 2016 Tundra 5.7 Litre, Ltd.




Posted By: fwunder
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2014 at 4:46pm
I most often use the little http://www.amazon.com/Worthington-281149-1-Gallon-Cylinder-Prevention/dp/B000SKX63U - Worthington 1 Gallon tank and adapter hose for grill (Weber Q), single burner stove (Sportsman Cast Iron) and peace-of-mind pod backup. Can also be used for Mr. Heater Buddy heater.

Recently, I decided to mess around with the refill adapter thing and some one pounders I have sitting around. Besides the 1 gallon tank, I have a couple of 20 pounders anyway. The few (Coleman) refills I have done seemed to work just fine. I weighed the empty bottle and came within 1 ounce of full (net 1 pound) when refilling. Tested with soapy water and no leaks. I think I'll pick up one of those Coleman single burner stoves and try one out.

Not sure how much I'll use them, but I'll keep a few around (in the shed) when I don't want to use one of the larger tanks.

fred


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2014 RPod 178 => https://goo.gl/CV446f - MyMods and Buying Habits
2008 4Runner Limited 4.0-liter V6
Yes, those are wild ponies dining on grass while dumping tanks!


Posted By: Outbound
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2014 at 4:48pm
Originally posted by techntrek

Toss them.  The valves on them are so cheap, usually after just the first hookup they won't seal right again.  I used to have an adapter that allows you to refill from a 20 pound tank and every one I tried I had to keep hooked up to an appliance to keep it from leaking.

I've had exactly the same experience.  It didn't matter if they were brand name (e.g. Coleman, Bernzomatic) or off-brand generic, the valves on the 1-pound tanks would always leak.


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Craig :: 2009 RP171 towed by a 2017 F150


Posted By: fwunder
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2014 at 5:22pm
OK, now you guys got me wundering 'bout this refill idea. So, I just ran out and grabbed one I refilled two days ago. Still same weight, but I'll check again in a few days.




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2014 RPod 178 => https://goo.gl/CV446f - MyMods and Buying Habits
2008 4Runner Limited 4.0-liter V6
Yes, those are wild ponies dining on grass while dumping tanks!


Posted By: techntrek
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2014 at 5:47pm
You may have the only batch on the planet that don't leak!

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Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1723 - Pod instruction manual


Posted By: fwunder
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2014 at 5:58pm
Well, it is a tight community around here! Wink

I just figured I would try some since I had them sitting around. It will be kinda fun to see if they hold the weight. Good thing I'm not 15 again or I'm sure I'd (or one of my delinquent friends) would figure out something to do with a leaking propane bottle!

fred


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2014 RPod 178 => https://goo.gl/CV446f - MyMods and Buying Habits
2008 4Runner Limited 4.0-liter V6
Yes, those are wild ponies dining on grass while dumping tanks!


Posted By: Podster
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2014 at 6:22pm
Interesting discussion on the practice here:  http://www.walleyecentral.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-192379.html - question about 1# propane bottles [Archive] - Walleye Message Central  and here:  http://www.gizmology.net/dot39.htm - Notes on Non-Refillable Gas Cylinders   

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Cliff & Raelynn
Ranger 4.0/178
(1/2 ton 5,800lb tow capacity)



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