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Topic: 12 volt CPAP Question
Posted By: Patriot Dave
Subject: 12 volt CPAP Question
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2016 at 7:16am
I may getting a CPAP in the near future and was wondering if any of you had any experience with a 12 volt model..

If so;
Did you run off the Rpod batteries all night?

What should I be aware of?

Thanks
Patriot Dave

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Dave & Joyce
Never Forget, In God We Trust; This Our National Motto.
Member; Patriot Guard Riders, Michigan Chapter
Retired; So Every Day is Saturday.... Except Sunday



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Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2016 at 1:49pm
Okay. I do have a CPAP. It is a Respironics System One 560P. Even the 120 Volt block puts out the 12 Volts it runs on natively. I ordered the proper 12 Volt cable from the big online "A" store.

Things needed:
1. Stable place to put the CPAP machine. In my mods, I show a shelf I put in. I set the machine on that.
2. 12 Volt outlet into which to plug it. I installed one next to the bed. The power needed depends on if you are going to run a humidifier along with the basic machine. On our last trip, I just ran the machine without the humidifier working. I had some water in it, but only for passive humidification, as I had the heat turned off.

The reason I had the heat to the humidifier turned off is that the specifications for the machine say it uses 12 V 6.67A. However, without the heat, it uses much less than that. If battery life is a concern (which it was for us), then running without the humidifier turned on will help. As it was, the only night we had any significant drawdown of our batteries was the first night when I had the refrigerator on 12 V power. After switching it to Propane, I had no problems the rest of the trip running the heater and the CPAP all night as we were travelling. When we were at ta significant stop, we had access to AC power, which made it a non-issue. Still, I ran on 12 Volt rather than switching back and forth.

For our setup, I have two six Volt batteries wired in series to generate 12 Volts. Since we returned, I purchased a Generac IX-2000 generator to carry on future trips. I am currently constructing a carrier for the hitch "A" frame on which to mount it. When it is done, I'll post pictures in the mods section. The generator is more for ensuring I have a way to keep the batteries charged if we are on an extended "dry" camping trip as well as to run the AC if possible. I won't be able to test that until we get our R-Pod back from the dealer's lot where it is for repairs of some manufacturer's and other issues which cropped up on our first trip.



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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: sailor323
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2016 at 7:48pm
I do not use a CPAP, however I have a friend who does.  His is a 12v model and he uses it on my boat with no problems.  I have 2 group 27 batteries on the boat and 270 watts of solar charging capacity.  He uses the same set up om his boat.  Interestingly, all the 120 vac devices convert 120 vac to some kind of DC voltage.  So, why take a 120v device and run it through a converter when you can plug directly into dc?


Posted By: shroomer
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2016 at 8:38pm
I found that ours runs 12v native as well. I just  checked the AC adaptor. We have a 177 and I put a 12v outlet in the "entertainment center" and leave the CPAP machine there. Works fine and out of the way. We have 2  12V AGM deep discharge marine batteries and have no problems with 3 nights of camping.


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Larry and Debbie w/Rosie the mutt. Old: '13 177, '06 Silverado V6
New: '15 Whitehawk 20MRB '14 Silverado V8


Posted By: Patriot Dave
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2016 at 5:50am
Stephan

Thanks for the reply. The info you gave is most helpful.
We are in the process of deciding which Rpod model we want and this sleep apnea thing came up.
Evidently I have had sleep apnea for some time and did not know it.
Anyway all of this going on at the same time made me think about CPAP and the Rpod and voltage / battery questions.
I do have a 2000 watt Yamaha generator i just bought for the Rpod as we will be camped often with no utilities available and running on batteries.
Hope to have the new Rpod by the end of the month.
Thanks Again
Patriot Dave

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Dave & Joyce
Never Forget, In God We Trust; This Our National Motto.
Member; Patriot Guard Riders, Michigan Chapter
Retired; So Every Day is Saturday.... Except Sunday


Posted By: Patriot Dave
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2016 at 5:51am
Thanks for the reply sand the info.

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Dave & Joyce
Never Forget, In God We Trust; This Our National Motto.
Member; Patriot Guard Riders, Michigan Chapter
Retired; So Every Day is Saturday.... Except Sunday


Posted By: Patriot Dave
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2016 at 5:53am
Thanks for the reply and the info.

3 nights on batteries is good for sure.

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Dave & Joyce
Never Forget, In God We Trust; This Our National Motto.
Member; Patriot Guard Riders, Michigan Chapter
Retired; So Every Day is Saturday.... Except Sunday


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2016 at 8:59am
Your concerns were the same ones I had when we purchased our R-Pod. I researched options and found that it is not a big issue. I did not find that the CPAP made a huge difference for me, but it does make a huge difference for my wife. She has had quieter nights since I started using it. Smile

I have heard other CPAP users state that it made a big difference in the quality of sleep. I don't know how bad your apnea is, but I hope you find it to be helpful.


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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: Patriot Dave
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2016 at 5:43am
Thanks for the positive info regarding the CPAP. Evidently I have had this issue for a long time and did not know it.
Its not so much with snoring, I just stop breathing and as a consequence my BP gets pretty high.
I sure do not like being attached to a CPAP but, it is what it is.
I take several trips each yeah on a motorcycle and space is very limited and now I have this to drag along.
I am however glad to have found the problem and know there is hope in sight.
I am also happy to know its not much of an issue for the Rpod. We will be doing a fair amount of camping in locations without utilities and I need to plan accordingly.
I just purchased a Yamaha 2000 gen for just those times.
My wife and I have set a date that a decision needs to be made regarding the model we want. We are down to either the 180 or the 179.
Anyway, Stephan thanks again for your input.
Have a Great Day
Patriot Dave

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Dave & Joyce
Never Forget, In God We Trust; This Our National Motto.
Member; Patriot Guard Riders, Michigan Chapter
Retired; So Every Day is Saturday.... Except Sunday


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2016 at 9:12am
The snoring is part of it Quieting that down is the benefit for my wife. I too have apnea, which is why I also have the CPAP. It would not have been prescribed only for snoring.

There are some very small machines now which would be great for travel. You may wish to talk with your sleep doctor about whether one of these (such as the Z1 or Transcend) would be adequate for you. They are currently the smallest ones on the market.


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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: furpod
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2016 at 9:12am
Bigger kitchen vs bigger bath... I will say that the kitchen in the 180 is pretty much what we have in our 177.. perfectly functional for us, and honestly, we cook outside an awful lot when camping.

Good luck with your choice. Smile I am sure you will enjoy either.


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Posted By: Leo B
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2016 at 9:40am
We went with the bigger kitchen, really like it and the storage!

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Leo & Melissa Bachand
2017 Ford F150
2021 Vista Cruiser 19 csk
Previously owned
2015 Rpod 179
2010 Rpod 171


Posted By: Patriot Dave
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2016 at 7:56pm
Thanks Stephen

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Dave & Joyce
Never Forget, In God We Trust; This Our National Motto.
Member; Patriot Guard Riders, Michigan Chapter
Retired; So Every Day is Saturday.... Except Sunday


Posted By: Patriot Dave
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2016 at 6:58am
Thanks for the input. Choices and more choices.............

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Dave & Joyce
Never Forget, In God We Trust; This Our National Motto.
Member; Patriot Guard Riders, Michigan Chapter
Retired; So Every Day is Saturday.... Except Sunday


Posted By: Patriot Dave
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2016 at 6:59am
Thanks for your input

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Dave & Joyce
Never Forget, In God We Trust; This Our National Motto.
Member; Patriot Guard Riders, Michigan Chapter
Retired; So Every Day is Saturday.... Except Sunday



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