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Topic: 2 kids and a Jeep- 172 vs 176 vs 178 vs a-frame
Posted By: zimm
Subject: 2 kids and a Jeep- 172 vs 176 vs 178 vs a-frame
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2016 at 4:42pm
We're shopping for our first camper.  I'm limited to 3500#max with my 2015 Jeep wrangler 4 door.  I was heading the direction of a Rockwood A122SXR rigid pop up, but the lack of bathroom is really bugging me.  The Rpod 172 is actually shorter, lighter, and has a bath and bunks for the boys (aged 4 and 6).  I know it's small inside, but I'm really just looking for a rolling sleeping box with heat/ac/bath.  Of course the 178 with slide is way nice inside, but is 2' longer and 400#'s more.

So... is the slide worth it if you're on the verge of weight limit?  With the lighter 172 I could load it up and not worry about a full water tank if going off the grid at a buddy's property.

How are the bunks for two small kids and parents on the dinette vs the 178 layout with a real queen for us and a dinette for the boys in sleeping bags?





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Posted By: Leo B
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2016 at 6:38pm
Welcome to the group!

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Leo & Melissa Bachand
2017 Ford F150
2021 Vista Cruiser 19 csk
Previously owned
2015 Rpod 179
2010 Rpod 171


Posted By: techntrek
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2016 at 10:15pm
Welcome.  Personally I wouldn't buy a camper w/o a slide.  I've had campers with and w/o, and I've been in campers of all sizes with and w/o.  A little extra width makes a big difference.

You can handle the 178, but don't fill the water tank with more than a few gallons (for on-road bathroom use) since you'll be withing a few hundred pounds of your limit as it is.  Either pod will affect your mpg identically while towing, since frontal area (drag) is the same and is what dictates how much gas you burn on flat terrain.  Weight comes into play going up hills, with extra weight making you slower and slightly lowering your mpg compared to a lighter trailer.

That said, upgrading to a TV with a higher tow rating would ultimately be better.


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Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1723 - Pod instruction manual


Posted By: computerfixitguy
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2016 at 11:32pm
Welcome !

I have a 2015 Rubicon 4 door and it was the deciding factor at 3500 lbs, however that seems to be not right given its 5000 in Europe for the same car.  My family and I drove to Iowa to get a 176T in June.  Couldn't be happier.  If you have the time I recommend the drive for you as it will save you thousands, which is what they charge to get a trailer hauled to Virginia.  You could rent locally before you buy, but I told myself I would never own a popup (for wind), it would have to be a hardside.  The RPod is the biggest, nicest, feature rich trailer that my Jeep will pull.

The Jeep makes it over the Continental Divide without issue.  Turns out there is a different 7 pin wiring harness and software upgrade you will need to plug in the Jeep.  My dealer did the whole thing for $240 installed, but the instructions have the cable going in the wheel well (seriously, Chrysler instructions !).  I did get a sway bar hitch and I need to get the RPOD risers installed on the RPOD, you can order yours with them.  The pitch is wrong, so either the hitch goes down (bad) or the trailer goes up.  The Forest River editions have these on them that are made in Oregon, but those will really cost you to ship.

The RPOD is really big when your buying one and really small when you own one if you get what I mean.  I have two kids and when we are all crammed in there the bunks (176t has bunks) is the best place to be for both the kids and the dogs. Big dogs are space takers, my pug not so much.  Bathroom is workable.  I use the shower head outside to wash dishes.  One of my favorite features is the sliding window at the sink so I can pass dishes in to my wife without walking around.  I can see why a lot of couples are happy with their RPOD and if it were my wife and I, we would probably have a 179.  Its like travelling in the front section of a submarine I suppose.

That being said, because its so short, it goes everywhere.  Wouldn't give that up for anything.  I see people come into campsites and can't fit what spots the forest service has with their Suburban and giant envy causing dual axle triple slideout toy hauler !  I keep telling myself I don't want one of those.  We use the RDome like its going out of style.  That nearly doubles the living space.  Look at pictures.  We drop the plastic rug and I can get the rdome in place by myself in about 5 minutes.  Best bug tent ever. I use bungee cords to secure it, not the suction cup hooks.  I really like the RDome, but others here aren't as impressed as I am.

Storage space requires an open mind, were doing just fine with shoe organizers and my wifes fruit hammock.  I have bought for the trailer, a solar panel 200W, (too big) 2 generators (for AC), replacement toilet (composting), new stabilizers (trailer not high enough), and custom mattresses because the OEM ones are, well, um, great for kids sleep overs !  

We love ours, its been a great addition to our family, now if my dog was smaller.

Derek


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2016 at 7:53am
We bought the 179 because we liked the queen bed and the large kitchen. The slide-out makes a big difference. We also have a vehicle (ford Escape SE with factory tow package) that has a 3500 lb. towing limit. So far, it has towed very well on flat land and moderate hills. It was a challenge on a "Virginia Scenic byway" heading up to the last section of the northern end of the Blue Ridge Parkway. Things were wanting to overheat until I remembered to turn the air conditioner off. After that, we were okay. It was still a challenge for the Escape, but I really can't afford to change right now. Eventually, I would rather have a truck or an SUV with a diesel, but we are making do with what we have.

We don't have the R-Dome. I made a slide-out cover and awning that work well for us. It is, after all, just the two of us. Perhaps someday, it will also be a grandchild or two occasionally. However, they live too far away for it to be more than an occasional thing.

The R-Pod resides on our driveway when we are not using it. It will also serve as our guest cottage if we should need it for that purpose.


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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: furpod
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2016 at 8:38am
I would upgrade my tow vehicle before I would own another camper without a slide.

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Posted By: zimm
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2016 at 10:59am
Well the tow vehicle isn't going to change for a few years. I'm really going back and forth between an Rpod (man a bathroom would be nice!), a pop up (a-frame or soft sided), or what I used last weekend, which was a utility trailer and a sears x-cargo rooftop carrier strapped inside holding all of our camping gear. Screen porch, 6 man tent, grill, stove. I really just missed having a potty for the 2am call and a shower would be nice staying out more than a day.


Posted By: kent l
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2016 at 12:29am
I have a 2015 178 r-pod and a 2012 Jeep Rubicon with 4.10 gears . It works well as a tow vehicle I have not had any problems with it.  I have 35 inch tires and a 2.5 AEV lift on the jeep. I was worried about the sway and the weight distribution so I bought and Anderson hitch. The hitch takes care of the sway and with weight distribution issues and the sway with the wind. I also have generator a tray with a 3100 watt generator out on the tongue of the trailer that added 150 lbs  to the tongue weight. I have pulled my trailer to Grand Targhee Wyoming, Green river lakes Wyoming and over many mountain passes on my way back to Utah. I live in the mountains with lots of elevation change and steep mountain roads. 
I don't think you will have any problem on the flat ground back east with a 178. The room with the slide out is the only way to go with kids.




Posted By: kent l
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2016 at 12:40am


Posted By: kent l
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2016 at 12:46am
uploads/5315/IMG_0177.JPG - uploads/5315/IMG_0177.JPG  Here is a pic of my Jeep and the 178


Posted By: luvmypod
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2016 at 6:14pm
I have a dilemma, I have an opportunity to purchase a BUICK ENCLAVE 2WD, (NO FACTORY HITCH) will be putting it on with the whole package(weight distribution and sway and all) would like to use this to pull my 182G.  The ENCLAVE will pull 4500lbs as per the specs with the tow package and looking into it, the factory tow package can be put on after market. What would you recommend? a truck s not a practical vehicle for my family.  Is this a good tow vehicle, anyone out there pulling their 182G with a large SUV that could let me know what they are pulling with and how they are making out with it please.  Thank you

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Live, Love, Learn and Leave a Legacy

2012 Ford EscapeV6
RPOD 182G


Posted By: JScottHouse
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2016 at 6:54pm
Hi, I am from Virginia too (Richmond).  For six years I had a A-Frame popup (Aliner Ranger) and loved it.  It was great for the time.  However, I would not recommend a A-Frame for a family of four.  I love my current camper, a RP-180.  Sadly, my V6 Ford Escape was not enough car for my new Rpod. It had a 3,500lb tow rating, could move the Rpod, but I didn't feel safe on the Interstate or at speeds over 55mph. After 1,300 miles and 90 days, I traded for a 4WD Ford Explorer.  The longer and wider wheelbase and additional 1,300lbs of weight makes the Explorer a great tow vehicle for the Rpod.  Yes, the slide out and large dry bath sold me on the RP-180.  So .... I recommend a Rpod for your family.  Just be careful as you approach the tow limit of your vehicle.  Twice now in 45 years of towing have I found myself with mis-matched tow vehicles.  Both times I have upgraded tow vehicles very quickly.

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2016 RP-180
2013 Ford Explorer 4WD


Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2016 at 7:57pm
We towed our 2011  177 (weighs 2400 empty) in the past with a 2008 Explorer and just this year upgraded to a 2013 Explorer 2WD.  Rated for 5500 lbs towing and has a 3.5 L  V-6 and 290 HP.  Both have towed very well using only a sway bar.  The older Explorer had only 210 HP but still towed well the 3x we were out west, twice in RMNP, Colorado and once in Glacier, Montana.  

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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."



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