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Topic: Honda Inverter/Generator
Posted By: jojogun
Subject: Honda Inverter/Generator
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2017 at 5:00pm
Decided to go ahead and purchase an Inverter/Generator. Scoured the internet and this forum for input. I was put off by the price of the Honda 2000s but more put off by some of the negative feedback on the alternatives. I really didn't want to have to buy this more than once and decided to go with the Honda EU200i.
The prices seemed to be pretty much the same everywhere so I thought I may as well check the local Honda Power Sports cycle shop. Sure enough they have a wall full of them in all sizes and the prices are the same as Amazon and all the other places.
The nice surprise is a lot of these shops including this one have a promotion going that uses the 'Honda Power Equipment Consumer Credit Card'. You can apply for this card at the time of purchase and it will give you 18 months interest free to pay any amount over $550.
The details can be seen here 'http://powerequipment.honda.com/finance'.
This kind of softens the blow of the cost and lets me spread the payments out.
I have no affiliation with Honda or Honda Credit. Just passing on some info if you might be on the fence over one of these generators.

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Jojogun
Atwater, Ca.
2017.5 176



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Posted By: Danielw1
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2017 at 6:25pm
good to know!

I am adding dual batteries and debating whether or not I need a generator. If a 2000 can't run the a/c what else is the benefit?


Posted By: furpod
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2017 at 7:07pm
Originally posted by Danielw1

good to know!

I am adding dual batteries and debating whether or not I need a generator. If a 2000 can't run the a/c what else is the benefit?


Running the other 120v stuff, microwave, TV, outlets as needed, charging the batteries.


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Posted By: SDTrialer
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2017 at 7:20pm
My Honda 2000 runs everything except the AC and charges the battery. 


Posted By: ToolmanJohn
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2017 at 12:31pm
Originally posted by SDTrialer

My Honda 2000 runs everything except the AC and charges the battery. 

Give a try and disconnect your battery(ies). Then plug into the Honda, start up (not Eco mode), and turn on the A/C. It might run the A/C.


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2017 ATC 7X20 Custom Toy Hauler
2013 R-Pod 177 (SOLD)
2013 VW Touareg TDI


Posted By: fwunder
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2017 at 2:47pm
Originally posted by Danielw1

good to know!

I am adding dual batteries and debating whether or not I need a generator. If a 2000 can't run the a/c what else is the benefit?

I have dual batteries also. My generator is primarily for wife's hair dryer. That makes her happy. That keeps me happy. Smile

fred


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2014 RPod 178 => https://goo.gl/CV446f - MyMods and Buying Habits
2008 4Runner Limited 4.0-liter V6
Yes, those are wild ponies dining on grass while dumping tanks!


Posted By: TheBum
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2017 at 12:18pm
We use two EU2000i generators in parallel, which run everything in our 179. One of the generators is the Companion model, which has 20A and 30A outlets.


Posted By: oliverj
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2019 at 7:48am
I bought one of the $600 generators and although it still runs it is slowly falling apart. Pretty much all the switches have fallen off and the start cord snapped after only a couple of starts, they are also very heavy compared to the Hondas

MODERATOR SAYS: Based on first post being a zombie thread, and a direct link to something for sale, this is a scam/troll. Please PM if you have questions.


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Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2019 at 8:00am
This is an old thread but for the record, with an easystart installed on the a/c unit my Honda 2000 will run my a/c Ok, but there is no reserve capacity to run anything else. It starts the a/c without any problem. Not sure how it would do at elevations of 5000 ft or more. Also, the new version is 2200W which should provide a little reserve capacity for high elevations or to run some additional light loads. 

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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: SteveA
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2019 at 8:12am
I'm able do the same with my Honda 2000i. Starts and runs the AC after I installed this. SUPCO SPP6 Can be purchased on Amazon for less than $10.00


SUPCO SPP6 Relay/Capacitor Hard Start Kit with 500% Increase Starting Torque


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2017 179 1/2


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2019 at 8:56am
Perhaps I wired it wrong, but after trying to wire in a SUPCO hard start capacitor, it made the situation worse. The attempt to start the AC would immediately put the Generac iX2000 into an overload condition. It ran better without the SUPCO HS capacitor. OTOH, the MicroAir Easy Start does make a difference in being able to start and run the AC. There is not as much of a surge in the engine of the generator with the Easy Start.

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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: Motor7
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2019 at 9:53am
Are y'all talking a 13.5 a/c?

I installed a Coleman Polar Cub 9,200 but a/c in my 13.5 truck camper and it was more than enough. I wonder if they would keep up ok on the smaller floorplan pods like mine?

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2016 R-Pod 176T


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2019 at 10:24am
Yes, 13.5kbtu which is standard on the rPod.   I've measured the duty cycle on my 179 at about 50-60% on a 90 degree day with about 75-80% humidity. So thats 7-8kbtu to maintain the interior at about 80F on a hot and steamy day.  So, I think a 9K btu would be Ok to maintain an pRod but it would take quite a long time to pull  it down. Most folks show up at their pedestal sites on a hot day and want their trailers cold, like now. I'm sure that's why FR puts an "oversized" a/c on them. 

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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: SteveA
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2019 at 10:44am
Yes, I have a 17 1/2 179 and it does have a 13.5 btu. When I purchased the Pod I already owned the 2000i and it in fact would not start the A/C. Did some internet research and heard some people had luck with the SUPCO 6. I live in N Idaho at 2300 feet and it does now start and run the A/C without drama at 85+ degrees.  I did use it in Utah last year at 90 degrees and 5,000 feet and still worked but many of the reviews state that I should expect trouble at higher elevations.
 Something we all should keep in mind when reading peoples solutions to Pod problems. Over the years Forest River has made significant changes to these units. Therefore a solution on a '17 1/2 179 might not be a solution on a '15. Case in point, I recall reading that the 13.5 Penguin II on the newer Pod's uses less energy that the 13.5 units found on some of the older Pods models. People may read that "this guy X tried solution Y and we both have 179's but the fix isn't working for me, why?" The answer is the models are the same but the appliance, shower surround, plumbing, inverter etc...may be different.  :)


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2017 179 1/2


Posted By: SteveA
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2019 at 10:52am
Stephen, When I purchased the SUPCO and did some install research I noticed one of the most watched YouTube Videos on how to install was in fact wrong. I followed the video and the unit wouldn't start. I called SUPCO and their tech in about 30 seconds had me straighten out. Their instructions are very generic and it's easy to connect the Hard Start to the wrong capacitor. 

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2017 179 1/2


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2019 at 11:04am
SteveA, does your a/c start with the Honda in eco mode? Just curious. 

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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: SteveA
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2019 at 11:38am
Actually never tried it in eco mode. I knew it was going to be a bit of an "event" so I started it up, let it warm and then turned on the A/C. I did disable the charger. 

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2017 179 1/2


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2019 at 3:45pm
Ok thanks SteveA. If you get a chance at some point when things get warmer it would be interesting to know if you can start up in eco mode. 

The Easy Start apparently has several protection modes, I'm running my Honda 2000 mostly on propane and the system is a little fussy to adjust for altitude, it also reduces its capacity somewhat. It I don't have it adjusted correctly it can bog down when the a/c is running. The Easy Start will shut the compressor off for a few minutes and try again. 

The a/c unit in my 2015 rPod requires 15.3A run current on a hot day. There is no noticeable rpm drop due to start load using the Easy Start and it starts from eco mode fine. 


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: SteveA
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2019 at 3:51pm
I'm in Lake Havasu until the first of April however if you're still interested at that time I absolutely will. :)



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2017 179 1/2


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2019 at 4:05pm
Keep us posted. 

I'm curious to understand when and why the hard start cap works.  I've already bought and installed the Easy Start so it won't help me but I'm sure it would be interesting for our newer boondocking members to know if they are candidates for a $10 fix rather than a $300 one.  


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: jacktherev
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2019 at 1:52am
It's quite, sips fuel, fairly light and the motor never misses.Starts on first or second pull every time. The only drawback is changing the oil every 25 hrs, but it's easy to do.

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https://inverterreview.com/bestek-200w-car-power-inverter-review/ - inverter review


Posted By: Colt
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2019 at 9:08pm
https://www.briggsandstratton.com/na/en_us/product-catalog/generators/portable-generators/p3000-powersmart-series-inverter-generator.html

Why not buy a generator thats big enough, in the first place.  Claimed 59 dB operating SPL.  $550 on Amazon. 

I have had several great Honda M/Cs.  I have my first and last Honda powered lawnmower.  Maybe I won't blow it up with starting fluid. 


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John
'16 R-Pod 180


Posted By: crankster78
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2019 at 8:46am
Greetings:
Happy Holidays.
I'm a Ham, so I've owned a Honda 2000 for over 12 years.  It has been used a great deal, and still runs perfectly.  I change oil every 20 hours  of operation and use a synthetic oil.  I replace the spark plug and have cleaned the air filter, that's been it.  They cost more, but they are well made. 

Crankster78  2015 R-179


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Crankster 78 R-179 2015


Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2019 at 10:23am
Originally posted by Colt

https://www.briggsandstratton.com/na/en_us/product-catalog/generators/portable-generators/p3000-powersmart-series-inverter-generator.html

Why not buy a generator thats big enough, in the first place.  Claimed 59 dB operating SPL.  $550 on Amazon. 

I have had several great Honda M/Cs.  I have my first and last Honda powered lawnmower.  Maybe I won't blow it up with starting fluid.   

That Briggs generator does not meet CARB standards. So it may be a great generator, but it's also a pretty good polluter too. Something to consider.


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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost


Posted By: Colt
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2019 at 12:55am
Not for me, I don't live in California.  Most don't.  That cert costs money and doesn't mean a non-certified generator pollutes more.  Poor speculation.  

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John
'16 R-Pod 180


Posted By: Our pod
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2019 at 2:47pm
Why not pollute less?

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Life is good.


Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2019 at 9:53am
I don't think it's an issue of the cost of certification. There are at least 16 states (besides California) that have adopted CARB standards ( https://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-efficiency/fuel-economy/carb4.htm - more details here ). That is an enormous market with a combined population of more than 1/3 of the entire United States. Briggs and Stratton are big boys, they should know how to do this.

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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2019 at 2:32pm
Champion, which makes a 58 dB inverter generator, managed to meet CARB so there's no reason B&S couldn't if they wanted.  And the Champion runs dual fuel and costs a lot less than some brand name competitors.

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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2019 at 7:08am
Originally posted by Colt



Why not buy a generator thats big enough, in the first place.  Claimed 59 dB operating SPL.  $550 on Amazon. 




Because of weight. 86 lbs vs 47 lbs for the Honda 2200. That big genny would almost certainly put me back in the hospital for more disc surgery. No thanks. My lumbar vertebrae prefer the Easystart solution. Tongue


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: TheBum
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2020 at 12:10pm
Originally posted by offgrid


Originally posted by Colt

Why not buy a generator thats big enough, in the first place.  Claimed 59 dB operating SPL.  $550 on Amazon. 



Because of weight. 86 lbs vs 47 lbs for the Honda 2200. That big genny would almost certainly put me back in the hospital for more disc surgery. No thanks. My lumbar vertebrae prefer the Easystart solution. Tongue


+1. Even with two in parallel, positioning one 47-lb load at a time is doable by most people.

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Alan
2022 R-Pod 196 "RaptoRPod"
2022 Ram 1500 Lone Star 4x4
Three cats


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2020 at 12:54pm
For those who have the do-re-mi [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46mO7jx3JEw - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46mO7jx3JEw ], two high priced generators in parallel would be great.  For we proles who can't afford it, we get buy with one good quality, but less costly brand.  If it's a little too heavy to lift for one person, many of us have a spouse or companion willing to help and it works fine.  Each person should do what works best for him or her.  

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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2020 at 1:11pm
Originally posted by lostagain

For those who have the do-re-mi [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46mO7jx3JEw - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46mO7jx3JEw ], two high priced generators in parallel would be great.  For we proles who can't afford it, we get buy with one good quality, but less costly brand.  If it's a little too heavy to lift for one person, many of us have a spouse or companion willing to help and it works fine.  Each person should do what works best for him or her.  

Or get one high quality generator plus an Easystart.  Less overall weight to lug around too.  My generator does its primary duty as backup power at the house, for which I wanted very high reliability. Recharging the trailer battery is secondary.  


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold



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