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   Welcome.  Personally I enjoy your site.  I submitted Great Salt Lake Marina to you last year.
I look forward to seeing the dialog on this. 

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techntrek Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group - pHp Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Location: MD Online Status: Offline Posts: 9062	Topic: Boondocking web site Posted: 05 Feb 2015 at 6:33pm
	Welcome. Personally I enjoy your site. I submitted Great Salt Lake Marina to you last year. I look forward to seeing the dialog on this.
	Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ Pod instruction manual

ShelbyQ Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 05 Feb 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2	Posted: 05 Feb 2015 at 2:23pm
	Well, as the guy that runs the Ultimate Campgrounds website, I feel compelled to weigh in on this thread. I'm sorry, codycountry, that you're so dissatisfied with my data. All I can say is I do my best. For what's worth, I'm a one-man operation, not some big money-grubbing company. I started collecting campground data about 7 years ago, first for my own use and then to share with friends. Eventually they convinced me to go public, as it were. My primary reason for starting the project was that I found lots of errors in the various official sources you mention, especially when it comes to actual geographical locations. I don't know your source, for example, for stating that the Sunlight Wildlife Habitat Management Area information is "a mess". According to the map on the Sunrise WHMA website, both campgrounds are precisely where I have them located. I would absolutely never assert that my data is 100% accurate. No source is, including Moon. Thanks

kylekai Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 06 Aug 2014 Location: San Diego Online Status: Offline Posts: 139	Posted: 05 Feb 2015 at 11:53am
	Very well said techntrek!!

techntrek Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group - pHp Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Location: MD Online Status: Offline Posts: 9062	Posted: 05 Feb 2015 at 11:18am
	It doesn't matter what source you use (books, gov't or private websites), someone needs to make corrections to that information over time as things change. The owner of the ultimate campgrounds guide started out compiling as much information as he could from public sites, books etc. but relies on the best source - those of us out there in the wild - to continue that process. You don't have to help them, sure, they are a for-profit outift and that is giving them free info/labor. However, by submitting new info that helps everyone that uses it. Your recommended substitutes - government websites and books - are even less reliable. The NPS and other gov't agencies are severely short of funds and personnel right now after years of budget cuts. Keeping data on campsites up-to-date on a web page that 10 people visit each month is not high priority. Books are worse since that information is locked in place as of when it was sent to the editor and can't be updated (unless they print a new book next year and you buy it, again). Websites/apps can have their source data changed immediately.
	Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ Pod instruction manual

codycountry Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 26 Jan 2014 Location: Wyo Online Status: Offline Posts: 168	Posted: 04 Feb 2015 at 8:42pm
	Not my job to correct their web site. I would go there for info that helps me, not the other way around. Inaccurate info is worse than no info. Plus it's more fun to just go explore and figure it out yourself. Most of their shown State land camping icons in the Cody to Yellowstone to Montana area of NW Wy are wrong. Some are illegal to even camp on like on the lower Clarks fork river, some aren't even State camping areas like Swamp lake on the Shoshone forest. That's a guest ranch and it's a USFS lease and you can't camp in their parking lot. There is no Upper Clarks fork river Game and Fish camping area, that is on forest land and is a pull off along the highway where people camp. The Sunlight Game and fish areas are wrong. It's a mess. It is mostly the State of Wyo areas that are wrong. Wyoming state trust owned lands are illegal to camp on statewide. Wyoming Game and Fish lands do offer opportunity, but you need to find out the details first. BOR and BLM are open unless noted otherwise. Forest Service lands in NW Wy have area specific restrictions. NPS lands are, well, they are their own country almost. They do whatever they want to do, and mostly around Yellowstone they don't like people. Camp there after reading all the small print. The NW Wy camping areas are something you can get off of any forest service, NPS, or State lands web site. Go to the source. Ultimate boondocking is not a compelling or worthy link to me if I have to edit it to make it correct. Get a Moon handbook and then you've got something, and no, I have no financial connection or other oblique interest in moon guides.

techntrek Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group - pHp Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Location: MD Online Status: Offline Posts: 9062	Posted: 04 Feb 2015 at 8:04pm
	+1. I found a campground that wasn't on their list, emailed them, received an email back asking for more info, and it was added the next month.
	Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ Pod instruction manual

kylekai Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 06 Aug 2014 Location: San Diego Online Status: Offline Posts: 139	Posted: 04 Feb 2015 at 5:56pm
	The Ultimate Campground app and campground list is updated monthly, mostly from people submitting corrections. If you have any corrections, please use the contact page: http://www.ultimatecampgrounds.com/uc/index.php/contact-us and you'll see your corrections in the next release.

codycountry Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 26 Jan 2014 Location: Wyo Online Status: Offline Posts: 168	Posted: 04 Feb 2015 at 5:52pm
	I just looked, and ultimate campgrounds is incorrect at several campground listings in the NW Wy area around YNP that I know very well. I would recommend getting a "Moon handbook" for each of the western states you are headed to for much more camping info, and they are highly accurate and interesting to read.

kylekai Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 06 Aug 2014 Location: San Diego Online Status: Offline Posts: 139	Posted: 03 Feb 2015 at 2:41pm
	There's a nice review of the Ultimate Campground app here: http://www.apppicker.com/reviews/21618/the-ultimate-US-public-campgrounds-project-app-review

Budward Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 21 Apr 2014 Location: SC/NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 438	Posted: 15 Sep 2014 at 9:12pm
	We used the ulitmatecampgrounds site several times on our recent 30 day out west trip..found us a couple of BLM and BoR campgrounds for single night on the move stays. I'd never heard of BoR before that trip- Bureau of Reclamation, part of the Department of Interior, same parent of the National Park Service and Bureau of Land Management.
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