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    Posted: 22 Jan 2017 at 9:55am
I did find the loose pigtail hose the would be used to upload antifreeze, so the fact that that hose is indeed under the bed implies to me that both the pump and bypass hoses are located in that one spot under the bed.

Is that correct? Yes, sounds like FR may have relocated the pump on your model. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jan 2017 at 11:51am
Podster, what are the rods shown in your picture that you use to prop up the plywood and where do you get them? I've winterized my 179 twice now with antifreeze following KyMoose's excellent video instructions...not that hard to do with the video...hardest part is dealing with the mattress and plywood!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jan 2017 at 1:21pm
I cut wood dowels to hold bed and plywood up. I use the compressed air method to winterize, works fine in TN. Yes it does take awhile. The kymooses videos on YouTube are excellent. One for air and one for antifreeze. I have a 178 and don't change my valves, limits amount of time lifting 10" mattress and plywood.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jan 2017 at 1:58pm
Originally posted by Hi-Line

Podster, what are the rods shown in your picture that you use to prop up the plywood and where do you get them? I've winterized my 179 twice now with antifreeze following KyMoose's excellent video instructions...not that hard to do with the video...hardest part is dealing with the mattress and plywood!

 with you specific application and they will recommend the proper set-up. 


Not the easiest mod, but worth it in the long run...


Note: Changing the mattress make change the gas strut requirements...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jan 2017 at 3:21pm
Since 2012 I have only used to compressor method to blow out my lines.  I have timed myself to go thru the process of 1)switching the 3 valves for winterization, 2) open and drain HW tank, 3) hooking up air gun to loose pigtail hose under sink to blow out lines, 4) blow out lines (takes about 1 minute going thru all cold and hot water lines and toilet 2x, 5) add a total of 8 oz. pink antifreeze to 3 traps, 6) re-install drain plug to HW tank.  Took me just under 5 minutes, not too time consuming in my estimation.  The big plus is no nasty antifreeze taste the following year in the cold water supply for your drinking water.  We often have temps that fall well below - 20C during the winter, especially in January.  Never have had any water or line leak issues using this method.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jan 2017 at 8:07pm
You are right on the money, There is a valve right at the connection with that pig tail hose. I winterized for the first time myself this past Oct. Only took about half an hour and two jugs is plenty. I used a 4ft 2x4 to prop up the wood and mattress. Watch the Moose Pod "pink stuff"vid and the one for de-winterizing. It's well done and really helps.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jan 2017 at 9:04pm
My opinion on winterizing based on my experience is that compressed air winterizing does not completely empty out all water in the system, even when one works through all faucets and low point drains. I did that, but decided to pump RV antifreeze through the system also. I was surprised at the amount of water that was expelled from the system before the pink antifreeze started flowing from the faucets.

That being said, I only needed one gallon of RV antifreeze since most of the water had been purged previously by the air. I will probably stick with this hybrid winterizing as it seemed to be relatively quick and it has so far been effective.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 7:12pm
I had an individual PM me about accessing the 3 valves under the bed.  What I did my first year back in 2011 was to cut an access hole above the 3 valves.  The opening is 5" x 8", not real large but enough room to reach down and change each of the valves.  I covered the hole with a piece of 1/4" luan that measures 6" x 9" and is held in place by one wood screw so that when I need to get to the valves I only need to 'swing' the cover piece 90 degrees.
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