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EchoGale
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Topic: 12 to 6 v battery switchout Posted: 07 Dec 2022 at 11:49am |
Stephen this is very kind of you and I will try but, I know its hard for you to fathom because it seems so obvious to you, but this is still over my head. Like I do not know what a terminal is. I'm not asking you to explain, just trying to communicate why I don't completely understand. We live on different planets. :)
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StephenH
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Dec 2022 at 8:33am |
Okay. I think I can help with this.
Ohms scale: On your meter, you should have a dial with various things like DCV (Direct Current Volts), ACV (Alternating Current Volts - your usual house plugs are 120V AC), DCA (DC Amperes), ACA (AC Amperes), Ohms (May be on the dial as a Greek letter Ω (Omega) which is the symbol for Ohms) and possibly battery test and transistor test functions. Ohms may be divided into 2000k, 200k, 20k, 2000, and 200 Ohms. Your meter may be different. Ohms is the symbol used to measure resistance. Take the multimeter and put it on one of the Ohms settings. You should have a reading of 1, which indicates that there is no current flowing. Touch the tips together. The digital display should change to 0.00 for digital or the needle should move to 0 on the OHMS scale on a meter with a dial and needle. That is what indicates that there is a closed circuit and that current is flowing. If the reading is anything but zero, then that is the resistance of the circuit. your battery switch should have three connections. One goes to one battery, one to the second battery, and the third to the load (the trailer wiring). With the batteries disconnected, turn the switch to Off. Put one probe on the terminal that leads to the load. Touch the other two terminals, one at a time with the other probe. The reading should stay at 1 (or very high on an analog meter). Turn the switch to battery 1. Again, one probe goes to the load, the other to the terminal for battery 1. The meter should move to 0 or very close to it. Touch 2 and it should stay at 1. Move the switch to battery 2. Again, one probe goes to the load and the other probe goes to the battery 2 terminal. The reading should be 0 or close to it. Then touch the Battery 1 terminal. The battery 1 terminal should remain at 1. Last, turn the switch to Off. Touch the Battery 1 and Battery 2 connections. The reading should remain at 1. If all these give you the results I mentioned, then your switch is functioning normally. I hope this helps clarify for you what was meant.
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StephenH
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hogone
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Dec 2022 at 8:09am |
Im with you EchoGale!!! Multimeters are way beyond me (BTW, I had to spend 2 years in kindergarten!!). jon
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Jon & Pam
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EchoGale
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Dec 2022 at 7:35am |
Again, thanks so much for al the help. I'll be able to pursue the suggestions later today (I hope). Some follow-up points:
1) They sat for just under two months 2) After a couple of years of reading about the 6 v batteries I never saw that they can discharger faster, I wish I had as I might not have done it because my camper is parked where I cannot plug it in. 3) I don't have an "off season" so I guess I'll try to get a solar tender. 3) I have this same kind of disconnect switch and I keep it set on "off" or "both" One day I'm going to make it to a rally in hopes of having someone teach me to use my multimeter. I only know how to test the charge on my batteries. This is way beyond my capabilities (honestly, with I can't even read this lol): " Put your multimeter on the ohms scale and connect it across the switch terminals. You should get an open circuit (or very high ohms) reading with the switch open. Then with the switch still disconnected from the battery close the switch and measure the ohms again. You should get a reading in the 0 to 1 or so ohms range." Just for fun I put the terms I don't understand in italics. :) You all have been awesome as always; I'll report back. |
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lostagain
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Dec 2022 at 7:17am |
We keep our trailer plugged in all year and have been doing so since we first bought ourPod. The batteries have been fine and when I've periodically checked the water level, it was always where it should be except in the NV summer heat, when it dropped a tad.
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jato
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Dec 2022 at 7:03am |
Though I remove batteries during winter I read of many who keep their pods plugged in 24/7 for long periods of time without any ill effects. The only word of caution that could be added here would be to keep an eye on electrolyte levels (once/month) and fill with distilled water when needed.
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hogone
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Dec 2022 at 5:38am |
Probably a goofy battery question but will ask anyway!! When Im home, I leave the old pod plugged in 24/7. Should I disconnect occassionally (maybe for a week or two) just to let the batterys drain a little? jon
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offgrid
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Dec 2022 at 1:48am |
Let's not overcomplicate things, you really don't need to be an electrical engineer to set up an rpod battery system.
The dual battery 1-2-both-off switches are generally intended to switch between house and start batteries on a motorized RV or boat. You don't need that for a trailer with two paralleled 12v batteries, it's fine to just leave those connected to each other. If you want, you can get a simple isolator switch to disconnect the batteries from the house loads when the trailer is not in use, but then you need to consider that lead acid batteries cannot be left uncharged for long periods, which is likely what happened to the OP here. Alternatives (depending on your storage situation): leave the trailer connected to shore power or connect to shore power for a day or so every few weeks and let the converter maintain battery charge. install a small solar module and charge controller remove the house batteries in the off season and maintain them at home on a small charger. o |
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SC for Huskers
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Dec 2022 at 9:07pm |
My old shut off switch had "1" or "2" or "Both" . Thus both 12v batteries went to the switch. I replaced the switch when I converted to the 6v batteries. Leave this tid bit up to the electricians.
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offgrid
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Dec 2022 at 4:42am |
It's quite possible that your batteries did self discharge in 3 months. You live in a hot climate which accelerates self discharge rates and golf cart deep cycle batteries self discharge faster than the typical dual use 12v ones. That's the price you pay for the deep cycle capability of the cart batteries. You need to keep them on charge every few weeks if not continously, and check the water level every couple of weeks as well, they consume more water when left on charge.
But first just to be sure you have the batteries connected up correctly.
Starting from the negative connection to the Rpod you should have that going to one battery's negative terminal. Then you should have a single jumper going from that battery positive to the other battery negative. Then from the second battery positive to the disconnect switch and then to the Rpod positive cable. And no other wires connected. If that's the case and the disconnect switch was off then either the batteries were defective to begin with or they self discharged. You can eliminate the disconnect switch from consideration by first removing it's connection from the battery plus terminal. Put your multimeter on the ohms scale and connect it across the switch terminals. You should get an open circuit (or very high ohms) reading with the switch open. Then with the switch still disconnected from the battery close the switch and measure the ohms again. You should get a reading in the 0 to 1 or so ohms range. |
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