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GlueGuy
Senior Member Joined: 15 May 2017 Location: N. California Online Status: Offline Posts: 2630 |
Topic: FR 50 to 30 amp warning Posted: 20 Sep 2018 at 7:28pm |
If I was really concerned about it, I would use the dogbone plus something like this inline waterproof circuit breaker.
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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River 2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost |
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lgblau
Senior Member Joined: 09 Feb 2018 Location: Arizona Online Status: Offline Posts: 140 |
Posted: 20 Sep 2018 at 6:12pm |
I don't have any warnings either. I just got back from a 4000 mile trip to Indiana. Was going to Cape Cod,MA for some lobster and clams. However, “Florence” made us change our mind. The Pod performed as expected with no dropped black tank drain falling,or Constancy tires blowing up, or converter quiting,or refer beeping, or water getting in. We had some very rough roads, and really hard rain with hail. Yet we had a great time in our travelling Marriott suite.
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Leonard🌵
2017/179 2017 Ram 1500 |
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mcarter
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 07 Apr 2016 Location: Greenbrier, TN Online Status: Offline Posts: 3419 |
Posted: 20 Sep 2018 at 3:37pm |
Read all the posts again, and have decided to keep my 50 to 30 dogbone and use like I have in past for times when the 30A is non existent or has problems. BTW - I do not have any warning decals on my pod, but I can understand the concern to a point. One thing I will say a lot of RV sites claim the 50A service is 2 - 25A legs and it is NOT. It is 2 50A legs, Furpod is spot on. Once again a judgment call to me, but where I stand for what it's worth.
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Mike Carter
2015 178 " I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability." |
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offgrid
Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
Posted: 19 Sep 2018 at 6:49am |
That would work GlueGuy but I doubt there is a listed inline wet location circuit breaker available. There are inline fuse assemblies, which would also work, they’re used in solar installations, so they’re wet location rated but probably not ac rated. And if you created your own assembly it wouldn’t be listed so that would be another code violation.
The best and in the end easiest way to do this would probably be just to convert the trailer to 50A service. Lots of people have upgraded older trailers that way. The equipment is listed, readily available and not too expensive, but it would require some labor. You’d need to install a new distribution panel and power inlet box and conductors between the two. And buy a 50a cord and a 30 to 50a dog bone if you still wanted to connect at 30a. That dog bone is safe from the over current problem. And then if you wanted your rPod REALLY cold you could install a second ac unit |
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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft 2015 Rpod 179 - sold |
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GlueGuy
Senior Member Joined: 15 May 2017 Location: N. California Online Status: Offline Posts: 2630 |
Posted: 18 Sep 2018 at 10:28pm |
If the dogbone included a 30 amp breaker, all would be good.
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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River 2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost |
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Happy Tripping
Senior Member Joined: 27 May 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 473 |
Posted: 18 Sep 2018 at 8:03pm |
Uh, ... actually, no. When something becomes tedious to us, we have the choice of simply not reading the thread (or whatever it's called). Because I don't understand the issues in this topic, I am still getting benefit from it. My summary - 1. 50-30 amp dog bones may be hazardous to your health. 2. 50-30 amp dog bones may be required for electricity at certain rv places. I guess I'll get one for when it's required for electricity. I like A/C.
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offgrid
Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
Posted: 18 Sep 2018 at 7:44pm |
Sure, Keith-N-Dar, water entry creates corrosion which results in a current limited line to ground fault across the receptacle pins. Then you add 28 amps of ac load by running the microwave and air con simultaneously. Voila, overheated conductors. That kind of thing happens all the time, especially ground faults, and especially in wet location applications, which RV cabling is. There are at least two people on the limited sample of this forum who have experienced these kind of faults.
In fact, come to think of it, I had a similar fault occur just yesterday, but on my house, not my RV. I just returned home after Florence and had corrosion in one of my receptacles resulting in a current limited line to line fault. Outdoor rated enclosure but nothing really stands up to blowing salt water from a hurricane. Didn't know it was there until I tripped my breaker after adding a load to that circuit. Ask me if I was glad I had a properly sized breaker on that line....
Well mcarter.... Forest River warns against it, right on the label.... And mcarter, yikes re the propane explosion, sorry to hear that. Can you share the causes and results, maybe we'd all learn something from that? By all means adventurelust, let's move on, I for one am not out to get anyone to change their mind. I only object to mis- or incomplete information because I think someone else who later reads this thread needs to have the facts in order to make an informed decision. |
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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft 2015 Rpod 179 - sold |
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adventurelust
Newbie Joined: 16 May 2017 Location: Ventura, CA Online Status: Offline Posts: 20 |
Posted: 18 Sep 2018 at 6:41pm |
OK, I think we ran this subject into the ground. Next!
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"Eighty percent of success is showing up" Woody Allen
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Keith-N-Dar
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 03 Apr 2011 Location: Mayville, WI Online Status: Offline Posts: 1447 |
Posted: 18 Sep 2018 at 6:18pm |
Name one that exists in the cable.
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Keith-N-Dar
Boris & Betty (Boston Terriers) 2011 R-Pod 177 2010 Ford F-150 |
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mcarter
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 07 Apr 2016 Location: Greenbrier, TN Online Status: Offline Posts: 3419 |
Posted: 18 Sep 2018 at 5:47pm |
Sure, it does. I can't find any RV authority that warns against this. I guess we are back to the "risk" discussion, like a lightning strike, BTW I have been thru a propane explosion. Thanks.
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Mike Carter
2015 178 " I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability." |
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