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    Posted: 27 Jun 2019 at 4:48pm
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I have had excellent experience with D rated tires on a 14" rim, I didn't see need to go to 15" rims. Some do. My only thought was don't be caught without a spare. You need three tires.
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Turned out for me that once I added in what it would have cost to get new 14 inch tires mounted on my existing wheels and subtracted what I was able to get for the old tires and wheels on Craigslist I was ahead buying pre mounted 15 inch 2500 lb rated tires and wheels.

The point is that your overall load capacity is no better than your weakest part, so consider both your requirements and each link in the chain when doing an upgrade. For me since I’ve reinforced the axle tube my weakest point is now probably going to be the other axle components (spindle/torsion system). My 179 is heavy. If you have a lighter rpod, don’t boondock, and your axle isn’t carrying in a lot of load then just a tire upgrade when it comes time to replace the OEM tires is fine.
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Originally posted by mcarter

Happy tripping,

I have had excellent experience with D rated tires on a 14" rim, I didn't see need to go to 15" rims. Some do. My only thought was don't be caught without a spare. You need three tires.
+1. Don't upgrade your tires without also upgrading the spare. I also opted for the LR D tires on the 14" rims and have had good performance from them.
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SH,

I admit I didn't do that because of the odd wheel. I will never add spare to side by side rotation, which I do yearly. To me it's a temp tire to get me to repair. I have been looking for a third wheel, however if I did that, I'd go with Offgrid and just upgrade to 15s with 3 matching wheels. Definitely something to think about :)
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I’ve never believed in tire rotation on any vehicle.. My feeling is that it conceals alignment problems. I’d rather know I have a problem and address it. As far as front vs rear wear is concerned on a modern Fwd vehicle the fronts wear out about twice as fast as the rears and I’d rather replace two tires at a time than 4. That’s just me, everyone has their own way of doing things.
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OffGrid,

Understand, but if the tires show no alignment or abnormal wear, I believe you'll get more longevity on a set by rotation. I think you have to look at abnormal wear and make a decision and agree it won't be solved by rotation.
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I was not talking about rotation, just that the spare should also be a LR D tire if the two on the ground are. Plus, if the spare is several years old, even if it is unused, it is at risk of failure from everything I have read. Better to have a spare that one can be fairly confident that it will be ready and won't fail, even if tires are not being rotated.
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Originally posted by mcarter

OffGrid,

Understand, but if the tires show no alignment or abnormal wear, I believe you'll get more longevity on a set by rotation. I think you have to look at abnormal wear and make a decision and agree it won't be solved by rotation.


Not arguing, just learing, I might have missed something. If tires are wearing evenly why do you think you’ll get more longevity by moving them?
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Good question, maybe we could ask every tire maker who suggests rotation, maybe they are just BSing us.
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Actually with no tire wear, rotation on a trailer is an owner decision, on a vehicle I completely understand the requirement, the fronts corner and turn, the rears track. There is more wear associated with front tires than rears, especially in a front wheel drive vehicle. Rotation increases the longevity of a 4 wheel set.
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