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marwayne

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Calendar Event: Attaching Items to Walls ???
Posted: 01 Apr 2020 at 9:42pm

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Posted: 01 Apr 2020 at 9:31pm

Originally posted by marwayne

I have in stalled many cabinets in our pod, there all held up by coarse thread drywall screws. I was told many times in this group and others that they will fall of the wall with the first trip you take. It has been 10 years and the cabinets are still in place.

When are you gonna take that 'first trip'?

10 years is a long time to wait.

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Posted: 31 Mar 2020 at 3:21pm

I have in stalled many cabinets in our pod, there all held up by coarse thread drywall screws. I was told many times in this group and others that they will fall of the wall with the first trip you take. It has been 10 years and the cabinets are still in place.

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Posted: 31 Mar 2020 at 2:05pm

I've used Everbilt Hollow Wall Anchors, #5-32 x 1 in. I had purchased these at Home Depot, but they appear to have been discontinued as I cannot find them on the HD web site. They work well and will not go through the outside wall. They are rated for 85 lbs in drywall. In the RPod, they would not be as sturdy, but they still would hold quite well, especially if they were put into one of the framing members.

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HD stock # is 147694

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Posted: 31 Mar 2020 at 2:03pm

Most of us can’t go camping with the virus lockdown so have time in our hands.

The photo you are showing is a self drilling self tapping screw, aka a Tek screw, the most well know brand name. The fluted tip is the self drilling part. I wouldn’t self drill, I’d drill a pilot hole. The self drilling screws are great if you’re putting in dozens or hundreds of them but you’re not. Pre drilling gives you better placement control. Self drilling screws just have a pointed tip with threads on it. Might want to use stainless steel ones, stainless is compatible with aluminum so you don’t get corrosion.

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Posted: 31 Mar 2020 at 12:06pm

Wow...............didn't mean to consume all your spare time with my question, but I thank you for all the feedback !!

So, several folks have mentioned the use of metal fasteners, self-tapping fasteners, etc. into structural elements of the trailer. I have only ever used simple sheet metal self-tapping screws, like this one. Are there others you recommend?

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Posted: 31 Mar 2020 at 11:41am

I used Command hooks placed on the walls where I cleaned with alcohol. So far, so good hanging pictures and towels.

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Posted: 31 Mar 2020 at 11:09am

Originally posted by lostagain

.... multiple fasteners to a structural element, kind of like tearing a phone book in half; easy to tear a few pages at a time, but real hard all together.

Ford is now using adhesive and rivets on their new aluminum bodied trucks from 3M. I hope the chemists and engineers got it right. Confused

There is safety in numbers, so there are lower safety factors that mechanical and structural engineers can use with multiple fastener systems. Most wood construction works like that, multiple fasteners avoid the risk of any one being into a weak spot in say a joist or beam.

I'm sure Ford knows what they're doing and I'm not knocking adhesives, they are great in a factory environment where everything is under tight control and you can have confidence that application is consistent. In a one off or field application not so much.

We had an adhesion problem in the solar module manufacturing line in one of the solar companies I worked for. After working perfectly for years all of a sudden one day the clear plastic encapsulant in the module laminates stopped sticking to the glass. You could peel off the solar cells and the whole back of the module with your fingers. Everyone freaked out, factory shut down. Not good.

Turned out that the glass manufacturer slightly changed the type of coating on the tiny plastic beads that they put between the glass sheets to keep them from sticking together. Even though we washed the glass that was enough to mess with the surface chemistry of the glass and cause things to fall apart that used to stick like crazy. All we had to do was to change the type of soap we used in the glass washer, that activated the glass surface and the stuff went back to sticking like crazy. Took awhile to figure that out though.

Point being that you have to know what you're doing and keep everything in control when relying on adhesives. Fasteners can be screwed up too but its usually obvious when that happens.

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Posted: 31 Mar 2020 at 10:20am

.... multiple fasteners to a structural element, kind of like tearing a phone book in half; easy to tear a few pages at a time, but real hard all together.

Ford is now using adhesive and rivets on their new aluminum bodied trucks from 3M. I hope the chemists and engineers got it right. Confused

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Posted: 31 Mar 2020 at 10:02am

I tried my Franklin ProSensor on the outside of our Rpod and it did a pretty good job finding the aluminum "bones" in the wall. It's not like other stud sensors, as it actually has 13 sensors lined up across the top, and it figures out the differential between the sensors to indicate the different densities.

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