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offgrid
Senior Member Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
Topic: New RP-171 Owners Posted: 15 Aug 2020 at 9:52am |
I agree that if the device is measuring the difference in TV axle heights with and without the wdh tensioned then the rig really wouldn't need to be dead flat, but it would need to be on a planar surface. I was surprised how much difference in axle load a very small height change in the surface made, so I do have my doubts that "not rolling" alone would be good enough. You can get the front axle back to its unloaded condition with a wdh but not the TV rear axle, which will inevitably have more load on it with the trailer attached. The tongue weight has to go somewhere. So some TV squat is fine and expected. You might want to put your numbers in this calculator and try adjusting the assumed wdh tension, I found it helpful to understand what was going on. If you reduce the trailer weight to say 1 lb you can also see what the TV would be by itself. |
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1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft 2015 Rpod 179 - sold |
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podwerkz
Senior Member Joined: 11 Mar 2019 Location: Texas Online Status: Offline Posts: 966 |
Posted: 15 Aug 2020 at 12:18pm |
It's all voodoo, smoke and mirrors....
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r・pod 171 gone but not forgotten!
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StephenH
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6288 |
Posted: 15 Aug 2020 at 8:15pm |
My driveway is sloped in two directions. If I have my RPod leveled, then it and the Frontier are not lined up side-to-side as well as front-to-back. I keep my RPod leveled because it makes things easier when I go to get the refrigerator cooling in preparation for travel. Iwill likely take it to a level parking lot somewhere, disconnect and then use the Better Weigh to set things up and then switch back to the OBDII dongle. Right now, I have that on a cable so it does not become a target for my feet or knees. I may get a splitter instead.
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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garyg4210
Newbie Joined: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Maryland Online Status: Offline Posts: 3 |
Posted: 18 Aug 2020 at 10:18am |
Hi there! It looks like we got in just under the wire and our new 2021 171 is due to be delivered in the next couple of weeks. Once we get it, the plan is to take a short test camp to try it out and see what else we need and then to drive it from our home in Virginia cross country. We are planning to use our 2014 BMW X3 (3.5 engine which has 300hp/300 torque) to pull it. The BMW has a hitch on it which we use to pull our boat and motorcycle trailer. The hitch was installed by U-haul several years ago with a 4 pin connector which I recently changed to a 7 pin to accommodate the Rpod. I also purchased a Curt bluetooth brake controller so that I wouldn't have to run a wire for the brakes to a wired controller.
Has anyone used a similar configuration or have experience with the bluetooth controller? I can't find anything definitive, but the information on the BMW OEM hitch and wiring says not to use a WDH, so I'm assuming that I shouldn't as well. There's nothing about anti sway. Any suggestions? I'm thinking that I can try it without it and see how it works and can always add it on later. I've been going through this forum and have picked up lots of good information. So, thank you all and I look forward to joining the "club".
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GlueGuy
Senior Member Joined: 15 May 2017 Location: N. California Online Status: Offline Posts: 2629 |
Posted: 18 Aug 2020 at 10:36am |
What is the trailer weight rating on that vehicle? Is it unibody? Front wheel drive, rear wheel drive, all wheel drive?
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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River 2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost |
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garyg4210
Newbie Joined: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Maryland Online Status: Offline Posts: 3 |
Posted: 18 Aug 2020 at 11:04am |
Trailer weight rating is 3500. It is unibody with all wheel drive. It pulls the boat (18 ft boat with 23ft trailer, 2500 lbs) easily.
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mjlrpod
Senior Member Joined: 27 Sep 2016 Location: Massachusetts Online Status: Offline Posts: 1214 |
Posted: 18 Aug 2020 at 11:23am |
I don't think you'll pull the pod easily, but many use a 3500 tow capacity to pull a 171, so it's not impossible. I'd say with 300 h.p and 300 #'s torque, you should be ok. Hopefully your payload can handle the tongue, and added cargo weight. Just be sure when hitched it's not squatting in the rear. You clearly want your steering wheels making solid contact with the ground.
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2017.5 Rp-172
2020 R-pod 195 2015 Frontier sv 4.0L 6cyl I'll be rpodding |
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podwerkz
Senior Member Joined: 11 Mar 2019 Location: Texas Online Status: Offline Posts: 966 |
Posted: 18 Aug 2020 at 1:44pm |
When you hit the tall mountain ranges out here in the west, be sure to have your roadside assistance on speed dial.
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r・pod 171 gone but not forgotten!
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StephenH
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6288 |
Posted: 18 Aug 2020 at 4:37pm |
Just don't try to be the first one up the mountain and you should be okay. With AWD, you should be okay. I don't know if SumoSprings makes something suitable for the BMW, but a set of those would help with the rear-end squat of the BMW without requiring a WDH. In any case, you would be wise to consider some form of sway control. I have the Hays Sway-Master electronic Sway Control. There are other options such as the ones from Lippert and Tuson. In addition to the hitch, you would also do well to add a transmission cooler if the BMW does not already have one.
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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garyg4210
Newbie Joined: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Maryland Online Status: Offline Posts: 3 |
Posted: 18 Aug 2020 at 10:34pm |
Does the hayes also act as the brake controller or would I still need a separate unit?
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