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    Posted: 11 Sep 2023 at 10:05am
Originally posted by StephenH

What happens when demand for electricity exceeds supply? How is EV charging going to be prioritized if power is needed for critical infrastructure? I would not mind a small EV for in and around town driving, but no way I would be taking one on a long trip. Since we don't have a garage and my wife does not drive, it makes no sense for us to have multiple vehicles so we have the one that works for us. 
Short term, you may have a point. However, In California now about 22% of all new cars are EVs. Because of cheaper solar and wind power, we now frequently have a surplus of electricity depending on sun and wind (despite the large number of EVs). Storage is going to be key going forward. You also might notice that the latest iteration of the Model 3 (long range) will go ~~ 420 miles on a charge.
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Originally posted by StephenH

It is a pretty sure guess that they were not on a cross-country trip.

I'm pretty sure you're right. One thing my wife noticed is that they were both women traveling alone. She has also noticed that most EVs she sees, are driven by women. Long ago, Toyota and Honda realized success by marketing the reliability of their cars to women. I wonder EV makers are doing the same. While men are busy arguing whether V8s are better than boosted V6s for towing, women are quietly insuring the success of EVs.
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It is a pretty sure guess that they were not on a cross-country trip.
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Back from our latest outing. We saw two Hyundai Ioniq 5 SUVs towing. One was towing a small popup, the other what looked like a homemade teardrop. 
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The lack of affordability is going to help reduce carbon anyways. People won't be able to afford them, and there won't be anymore ICE engines, problem solved. Of course the unemployment issue might get a bit outta control. 

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https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/fords-ceo-admits-reality-check-during-f-150-lightning-route-66-road-trip

The comments are interesting. What happens when demand for electricity exceeds supply? How is EV charging going to be prioritized if power is needed for critical infrastructure? I would not mind a small EV for in and around town driving, but no way I would be taking one on a long trip. Since we don't have a garage and my wife does not drive, it makes no sense for us to have multiple vehicles so we have the one that works for us.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote GlueGuy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Sep 2023 at 9:47am
The change to zero-emission vehicles will be punctuated by fits and starts. It will have to happen, but a lot of people will be kicking and screaming along the way.

https://www.autoblog.com/2023/09/09/california-ev-sales-jump-us-future/


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Post Options Post Options   Quote mjlrpod Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Sep 2023 at 10:42am
So My school is going full bore into the electric vehicle realm. We just added a whole new 3 bay addition to auto tech. Our top admin, after waiting a year or more to get his Lightning, did finally get it. He was all proud of himself, being a visionary, and saving the planet. 6 months into it, he got rid of it. Said it was a total piece of crap, and he would never buy another. He replaced it with a hybrid vehicle, because he still is against the ICE vehicle. I on the other hand have never been happier driving my Subaru Outback. 
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The relative cost of ICE fuel and electricity varies all over the place, depending on region. Around here, the high cost of gas/diesel makes it much more expensive than electricity; especially if you can get some or all of it via solar.
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Thanks. I fixed the link in my post. As for fees, I just read that Texas has passed a one-time $400 fee for registration and an annual $200 fee to make up for the loss of highway revenues from them not paying gasoline taxes.

One other reason for taxes on EVs is that the greater weight of the EVs due to the heavy battery packs is that the weight puts more wear and tear on the highways. 

"Extra road wear is another EV trait that may not immediately come to mind. The taxes you pay for EVs may not necessarily be destined for road repairs or improvements, while most of the fuel tax paid by ICE drivers is used towards that. In other words, EVs are causing more wear on the infrastructure, but they are actually paying less to maintain it."
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