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    Posted: 09 Dec 2014 at 9:26pm
Charlie - gotcha.  
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Posts: 1108 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Dec 2014 at 9:30am
"...Sorta makes us superfluous Smile "

Na, the original discussion was aimed at the pros and cons of tapping at the feeder outside vs the panel in the garage and I appreciate everybody taking the time to comment. Smile
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Posts: 1797 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Dec 2014 at 8:48am
Originally posted by Podster

Found a pretty good video on how to install an RV receptacle at home.



Excellent video. Sorta makes us superfluous Smile


TECHNTREK: Maybe this should be linked in the instruction book section. It's  common problem for Podders and this is an excellent treatise.
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Found a pretty good video on how to install an RV receptacle at home.
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Posts: 1108 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Dec 2014 at 10:35am
Originally posted by techntrek

I think an outdoor rated box is overkill in a protected garage.  15 & 20 amp outlets aren't required to be in a weatherproof enclosure in a garage, only that they are GFCI protected (not required for a 30 amp outlet).  Just make sure it is mounted at least as high off the floor as the existing outlets to meet local code.

Yes Sir, I think Charlie was covering all the bases and working from the premise that I may run X number of feet from the panel to an outside location. 

So, the right breaker at the panel with some 10/2 plus a ground wire, a box and a 30 amp RV receptacle in the wall just a few feet from the panel should cover it. 

Thanks so much for taking the time to comment, I really appreciate it. 
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I think an outdoor rated box is overkill in a protected garage.  15 & 20 amp outlets aren't required to be in a weatherproof enclosure in a garage, only that they are GFCI protected (not required for a 30 amp outlet).  Just make sure it is mounted at least as high off the floor as the existing outlets to meet local code.
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Originally posted by CharlieM

 From your posts and pictures you have a 70 Amp 240 volt feed to the sub panel through that 70A breaker outside. The easiest would be an added 30A single breaker in the garage. For the 30 Amp RV connector refer to this article: http://www.myrv.us/electric/. Good luck.

Yes Sir, I think we are getting right down to it right here...thanks Charlie, I really appreciate your feedback. 
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We're glad  you recognize the danger and are proceeding with caution. From your posts and pictures you have a 70 Amp 240 volt feed to the sub panel through that 70A breaker outside. The easiest would be an added 30A single breaker in the garage. If your run is 30-50 feet start with a piece of 2 conductor 10AWG plus ground (3 total). Use 10-2W/G type NM if it will be exposed to sunlight or buried. In the garage box note that all the white wires go to one bus: connect the new white there. All the bare ground wires go to another bus: connect the new bare wire there. The new black wire goes to the new breaker.

For the 30 Amp RV connector refer to this article: http://www.myrv.us/electric/. Follow the guidance for 30 Amp RV service and use an approved outdoor box. With a little help from your friend you'll be fine. If you don't already have one get an inexpensive 3 light outlet tester and test the final installation. You should have one of these testers anyway for campgrounds.

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Posts: 1108 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Dec 2014 at 7:16am
Originally posted by Buxmont

...  I'll be honest, whats has me concerned (especially the last question you asked and your own admittance of ignorance) is the knowledge base your working from.  Please be careful and make sure you keep all of your polarities correct if you attempt this installation.

No worries, as the evidence shows here, I will certainly conduct the due diligence required to prevent  a catastrophe. I have never done, thought off, or considered work at the panel. I will certainly consult with an electrician friend before final execution. 

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You actually base breaker size in a panel on whats available from your feeder breaker. Its a mathematical equation based on the load calculations that are being used by each circuits. So just because you have all 15 amp breakers doesn't mean you can't install a 30 amp.  All of those 15 amp beakers might be feeding outlets that you have nothing plugged into so you have no load on those circuits, or you might have 1500 watt space heaters plugged into all of them and have no available amps (being facetious) .  I'll be honest, whats has me concerned (especially the last question you asked and your own admittance of ignorance) is the knowledge base your working from.  Please be careful and make sure you keep all of your polarities correct if you attempt this installation.
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