171-holding tank support and fender extension? |
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frozebubba
Newbie Joined: 21 Feb 2017 Location: Alaska Online Status: Offline Posts: 13 |
Topic: 171-holding tank support and fender extension? Posted: 20 Mar 2017 at 1:56pm |
I have a 2016 Hood River 171 that I will be getting to know this coming summer and was wondering about a couple of issues. 1) I see no straps supporting the holding tanks and was wondering if an addition like that would be in order if travelling on our ample supply of frost-heaved roads in Alaska? It appears the tanks are supported by a hidden lip that fits over part of the frame and nothing else. Any additional info appreciated. 2) Has anyone added additional length to the rear of the left side wheel fender to protect the black and gray water outlets from stone damage if travelling on gravel roads? Is this even a concern? Thanks! |
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Rustler
Senior Member Joined: 07 May 2016 Location: S. Oregon Coast Online Status: Offline Posts: 100 |
Posted: 20 Mar 2017 at 2:59pm |
I have reported on how mud-flaps were added to the fenders to protect the holding tank dump valves. This was also done to reduce the amount of spray thrown up by the tires during wet weather. My report of this modification can be found on the following link: Also regarding the supports for holding tanks, I would recommend checking all of the large sheet metal screws attaching the cross members to the frame. These cross members are what keep the holding tanks in place so that the lip on the tanks you mention can support the tanks. An additional strap under each tank would certainly help. There have been some reports of holding tanks dropping to the pavement during travel.
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Russ
2009 Toyota RAV4 V6 w/ tow package 2016 Rpod 171 HRE |
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frozebubba
Newbie Joined: 21 Feb 2017 Location: Alaska Online Status: Offline Posts: 13 |
Posted: 20 Mar 2017 at 3:04pm |
Thanks, Rustler! Very helpful.
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furpod
Moderator Group - pHp Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Location: Central KY Online Status: Offline Posts: 6128 |
Posted: 20 Mar 2017 at 3:41pm |
The holding tanks are "T" shaped and sit down in those brackets. Without losing a bracket, you can't lose a tank.. that said, check the screws holding the brackets to the frame. Brackets have come loose..
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mcarter
podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 07 Apr 2016 Location: Greenbrier, TN Online Status: Offline Posts: 3419 |
Posted: 20 Mar 2017 at 5:28pm |
If you want to look at issue as posted, the ref is a post by Casa Jack, Water Tank Beam, posted 25 JUL 2014. 5 pages of comments. Personally I had gaps and issues with my tank beams, and the 1" by #14 screws that hold the beams on, I corrected my issues. I have a 2015 178.
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Mike Carter
2015 178 " I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability." |
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CharlieM
Senior Member Joined: 23 Nov 2012 Location: N. Colorado Online Status: Offline Posts: 1797 |
Posted: 20 Mar 2017 at 10:08pm |
A few references on the tank holding bracket problem:
http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7558&KW=washer&PN=1&title=black-tank-fell-from-rpod http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5036&KW=water+tank&PID=48858&title=water-tank-beam#48858 The problem was common for a while and needs to be fixed. Be sure to replace broken screws and fill any gaps with large washers as described. |
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Charlie
Northern Colorado OLD: 2013 RP-172, 2010 Honda Pilot 3.5L 4WD PRESENT: 2014 Camplite 21RBS, 2013 Supercharged Tacoma 4L V6 4WD |
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frozebubba
Newbie Joined: 21 Feb 2017 Location: Alaska Online Status: Offline Posts: 13 |
Posted: 20 Mar 2017 at 11:18pm |
More thanks to everyone. Looks like I will be spending some time under there checking out integrity of the supports and making/installing some mud flaps. I think I missed some of the links that were passed along because I did not use advanced search and thus only got the past 6 months results on my searches.
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frozebubba
Newbie Joined: 21 Feb 2017 Location: Alaska Online Status: Offline Posts: 13 |
Posted: 17 Jun 2017 at 1:45am |
Thanks for the tip on the sheet metal screws. On curb-side, all were loose and needed serious tightening up. On road-side, they were tight. Guy on the curb-side of the assembly line must have been hung over.
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Dcmeigs
Newbie Joined: 14 Jun 2018 Location: Washington Online Status: Offline Posts: 8 |
Posted: 05 Jul 2018 at 9:26pm |
I found that my 2014 178 had a problem in need of correction. The angle brace has a flange at each end with three holes. That piece is about 1/4” too short. It was attached tightly to the port frame member and then had a large gap at the starboard side. Only two self tapping screws were used it each end, thus leaving one hole without a screw. Apparently an engineer thought it required three and the guys on the floor decided against that much effort. The screws in the gapped end had not sheared, but a fastener in shear has much less strength than one in tension. I removed the screws one at a time and added three washers to fill the gap. I also drilled the frame member and added the third screw to all six locations.
If you decide to do this, start early and use some superglue and a 1/4 x 20 bolt and nut as a clamp to make yourself some washers of the correct thickness to match the gap. It’s extremely frustrating to attempt to place one washer, let alone three washers in a blind vertical gap. This will save you some time and frustration. An even better solution would be to fabricate some shims that match the drilling of the flange.
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frogpod
Groupie Joined: 17 Aug 2014 Location: Grand Rapids, M Online Status: Offline Posts: 40 |
Posted: 06 Jul 2018 at 12:10am |
The self tapping screws are really cheap. Mine was missing one of the three at each location and one of the six locations had only one screw. The second had sheared off. I drilled holes in the center of the frame and installed an actual bolt on each end of each support in addition to the cheap screws. Took about an hour to complete.
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Leo and Tami
with Coltrane the Jack Russell Terrier 2010 Rpod 171 2003 Toyota Tacoma TRD |
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